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post Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
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As a person, I have a big ego. I want to win at all costs. I want this and that. I simply want to have it my way. I want the cake and the icing too. I am spoiled and always want to take more than I give back. Is this an example of an Ego?

My ego boost me to gain riches, health, love and many other conquests.
My ego also make new enemies, destroy and corrupt various aspects of me and my environment consciously and subconsciously.

What is EGO? What does this word means?
How do you define it? How do you keep it your slave instead of it enslaving you?
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post Apr 27 2005, 12:27 AM
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that's to make as many people as possible look and feel good, even to one's own detriment.


Thats a dangerous statement, and one that could do you under in the future if you truly believe it. I know many people that follow a moral code like that and destroy their selves and ended up in depressions or worse because of it.

Always place your own health and important need above others.

Also other peoples happiness does not depend on your actions alone...

Are you sending all your money to poor country's to the extent that you don't have any money left to buy yourself food, clothing...




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I don't bother with either of these. Dividing the mind only leads to trouble.


That is entirely true.
I would like to add that the concept of an ego is just a tool for dividing the mind. The ego itself does not exist, it is just a word with certain mental activities associated with it. In truth these activities are not depended on a thing called ego at all.These mental activities are just thoughts and things that happen in the mind. The ego cannot be killed or silenced, because it does not exist.


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Selfishness is something I try to avoid. It has no bearing on willpower, and I find it socially unacceptable. Selfishness, however, is not willpower - it is, in fact, the lack of willpower. It's easy to want to try and make yourself look and feel better than everyone else. Real willpower comes from being able to do what's right - and generally, that's to make as many people as possible look and feel good, even to one's own detriment.


Again, i do not agree. Willpower and selfishness have nothing to do with each other. If it is your will do do a certain tasks, it is your willpower that pulls you trough it. If you use your will to counter selfishness then you do so by willpower. If i use my will to achieve certain selfish results then that is also willpower.

Trying to avoid selfishness is foolish, and I don't like this kind of black and white thinking. I am sure you are plenty selfish, or you would be dead already.


Actually this kind of reasoning is futile. The world is a complex place, and the mind has to deal with each situation in a different way. At some times acting selfish may be the right thing to do, and on other times being selfish is wrong.
Sometimes you have to listen to the advise of the ego, other times your ego is out of control.

It all depends on each specific situation. Thats what i meant by being free, and inventing yourself. If you have to measure each situation to some sort of moral code, then you are not wise at all...


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| Kinjo   Ego   Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
mediocracy   I'm not sure what the 'proper' descrip...   Apr 26 2005, 06:05 AM
UniOne   Ego is a combination of pride and darkness... It i...   Apr 26 2005, 07:55 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What you describe as ego in the above is in a part...   Apr 26 2005, 11:20 AM
| Kinjo   Killing the ego is like killing life. I am where I...   Apr 26 2005, 11:42 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   the ego is a word. it means whatever you associate...   Apr 26 2005, 12:47 PM
| Kinjo   Seemed like Ego and other things means a lot of di...   Apr 26 2005, 04:58 PM
DropAndRiver   The only way I've been able to manage my ego i...   Apr 26 2005, 05:59 PM
| Kinjo   Let's try to clarify and define what "ego...   Apr 26 2005, 06:16 PM
Zahaqiel   In the Freudian sense, not quite. Freud divided t...   Apr 26 2005, 11:19 PM
Zahaqiel   Not really. So I should place my own health abo...   Apr 27 2005, 02:07 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What i meant is punching someone who punched you...   Apr 28 2005, 04:19 AM
animus   All this talk about killing the ego or not being d...   Apr 28 2005, 04:25 AM
| Kinjo   Do what thou wilt can also be abused. Literally it...   Apr 28 2005, 04:53 AM
animus   Isn't this kind of the point? Do what thou ...   Apr 28 2005, 06:07 AM
mediocracy   Some would say that 'do what thou wilt' is...   Apr 28 2005, 11:30 AM
Radiant Star   Ego is the thing that gets us through until we fin...   Apr 28 2005, 12:35 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   I agree to Radiant Star, Its all about finding the...   Apr 29 2005, 07:17 AM
Radiant Star   I think the greatest problem with the ego is other...   Apr 29 2005, 01:14 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Lol, good one. Some people are showing their big ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:30 PM
animus   Just thought i'd post what www.dictionary.com ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:46 PM
Radiant Star   :goodposting: animus :) Aha! with that hel...   Apr 29 2005, 03:19 PM
Zahaqiel   Ok then, I can see how my stance might be constru...   Apr 29 2005, 06:23 PM
Radiant Star   We would probably choose a more effective way of d...   Apr 30 2005, 01:35 AM
Zahaqiel   Same goes for those without a self-esteem scale. ;...   Apr 30 2005, 02:11 AM
animus   Haven't really thought about this much but wil...   Apr 30 2005, 03:09 AM
Radiant Star   I think that although the language may differ, the...   Apr 30 2005, 03:28 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   Apr 30 2005, 01:08 PM
mediocracy   Ghandi managed to overthrow the mightiest empir...   May 1 2005, 12:41 AM
Radiant Star   This is true about the pacifist time line; my thin...   May 1 2005, 02:15 AM
Zahaqiel   Alternatively, if you do punch back, they'll ...   May 1 2005, 04:25 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   amen to that Radiant Star. In the end it all depe...   May 1 2005, 07:15 AM
Radiant Star   Now I am impressed A_Smoking_fox :wandwizard: :...   May 1 2005, 11:42 AM
animus   Very nicely put, sacred-magick should have a ran...   May 1 2005, 01:24 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Radiant Star and Animus, you both honor me with su...   May 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Mr_Merlin   I perceive the ego as the 'machine consciousne...   May 8 2005, 05:39 AM
Athena   Do what thou wilt, is only half of it, shall be...   May 8 2005, 12:36 PM
Athena   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   May 8 2005, 12:47 PM
bym   To all who have posted here...Thanks! Becomin...   May 8 2005, 01:10 PM
Radiant Star   Mental muscles I presume Bym, unless you are pract...   May 8 2005, 01:53 PM
bym   Absolutely! Eh....mental muscles...actually le...   May 8 2005, 03:01 PM
Mr_Merlin   Sometimes when you are your true self and you know...   May 8 2005, 03:16 PM
Praxis   My ego is the negative contrast for my character. ...   Aug 7 2005, 07:11 PM
Radiant Star   The way I see it, the ego is a balancer. I see it...   Aug 10 2005, 06:07 AM
Joseph   :blablabla: Greetings All, In my understand...   Nov 26 2006, 10:46 AM
smasher666   Greetings Joseph, I agree. My understanding of ...   Nov 26 2006, 11:21 AM
extinctionspasm   The ego concept has been develloped well beyong fr...   Nov 26 2006, 06:33 PM
esoterica   thesis: ego is a natural urge for survival of a gr...   Nov 27 2006, 09:37 AM
Gopendra   next page sorry :Oops!:   Dec 29 2006, 05:34 AM
Gopendra   The soul is constituted by a substance above in wh...   Dec 29 2006, 05:40 AM
The Wanderer   ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The spirits speak only on...   Apr 26 2007, 10:56 AM

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