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Oryx
post Jan 29 2007, 09:24 PM
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In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a time when something just turns them berserk?
How do they react to insults, disrespect and treating the whole ritual as a laugh?

I realize this topic has the potential to make me unpopular; (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tomato.gif) but if I ever get the chance to summon a goetic spirit, I don't want to screw anything up by accedentally insulting it.

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post Feb 18 2007, 04:56 PM
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I don't see my opinion being like a butt hole.

Also I believe solomon himself was a Wacko any damn way, the Demons/Demonesses didn't want to do anything for him he should have left them alone. Same with humans today, if the Demons/Demonesses don't want to do anything, then they should leave them the hell alone. The whole practice, and others like it is just ridiculous any way. Well I guess humans will learn one day.

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post Feb 18 2007, 07:04 PM
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If you want to "leave things the hell alone," what interest could magic possibly have for you?

From the perspective of the supposed author of the Goetia, whether Solomon or the equally mythic occultist/priest of the 14th to 16th century, the spirits are false gods whose worship leads mankind away from the true and proper Judaic Monotheism. Accordingly, they are treated as criminal terrorists, enemies of the State, and are subjected to censure as a result.

Given that Solomon, or quite possibly even the Medieval Church, had the power to remove these spirits and their worship more or less utterly from the known universe, the author had sufficient leverage to make this Pact (the brazen vessel and its bindings) work, the spirits being offered a choice between servitude or complete oblivion.

As it stands, that is, according to the actual rites and requisites given in the Goetia, this Judiac Monotheism is the way to do Goetia. You can change things, eliminate various tools or curses, make things you "own," but in doing so you are doing something Goetia-based or Goetia-themed, not the true Imperial Art of Solomon the Wise. Under the original forms, you are dealing with conquered criminal entities who have been made subject to dismal labor at your whim. If you had human criminals, under your thumb in such a way, would it be so distasteful?


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Oryx   What Would It Take To Piss Off An Entity?   Jan 29 2007, 09:24 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a ...   Jan 29 2007, 09:48 PM
bym   Greetings! (the sound of a very old phonograp...   Jan 29 2007, 10:07 PM
Imperial Arts   In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a ...   Jan 30 2007, 12:37 AM
Edunpanna   Greetings 'Imperial Arts, :goodposting: :fu...   Jan 30 2007, 01:33 AM
NecroReaper   Usually, when the more intelligent folks, entities...   Jan 30 2007, 03:11 AM
Edunpanna   How to piss off a demon. 1. Hold it down and fart...   Jan 30 2007, 01:16 PM
dynajam   5. Throw Holy Water at it. 8. As soon as it shows...   Jan 30 2007, 03:17 PM
altpath   :D Your post really did make me laugh out loud. Hi...   Jan 30 2007, 11:27 PM
Sparkles   Shaking My Head I believe some people here are...   Feb 17 2007, 05:00 AM
Sparkles   How is that a personal attack? All I did was ag...   Feb 17 2007, 09:19 AM
Nero   How is that a personal attack? Maybe I took your ...   Feb 17 2007, 11:26 AM
altpath   sparkles, these are not Gods. They are demonized ...   Feb 17 2007, 10:37 AM
WyrdScience   Although attacking is not condoned, I see Sparkle...   Feb 17 2007, 10:43 AM
Sparkles   altpath It doesn't matter what version of ...   Feb 17 2007, 10:58 AM
Darkmage   I can't say I've ever really pissed off an...   Feb 17 2007, 11:10 AM
WyrdScience   Some tend to be broad and can encompass many thin...   Feb 18 2007, 11:02 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   The entities in these grimoires are, in my opinion...   Feb 18 2007, 10:43 PM
Sparkles   :nonono: That's not advisbale either to d...   Feb 18 2007, 10:26 PM
Sparkles   As far as terrorists/criminals goes, that's an...   Feb 18 2007, 10:46 PM
Noohn-Kehk   Your energy's so familiar Sparkles..............   Feb 19 2007, 10:36 PM
Petrus   In your dealings with the goetia, is there ever a...   Sep 28 2008, 06:45 PM
altpath   I would agree with that post if it wasn't for ...   Sep 29 2008, 05:35 PM
Petrus   About the rest of the post, that's a good con...   Sep 29 2008, 08:20 PM

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