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Xochipilli
post Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
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Now I know that everybody who has experienced "hallucinations" from staying up days on methamphetamine will almost always put it down to speed induced psychosis but after having a very lifelike conversation with a voice in after 3 days of sleep deprivation and lack of food im starting to question how imaginary these so called hallucinations really are.

Im interested in hearing opinions on the subject from occultists. I had no idea what psionics were until I had this experience. The voice talked about all sorts of things but at one point it said "Seeing as your more in tune with this dimension where deceased people reside, I can send you psionic frequencies". Also the voice asked me if it was my first psychedelic encounter.

Another very strange detail was the fact that after the voice told me it was going to give me a wet willy I actually felt a cold finger poke me in the back. It either felt like a cold finger or cold water seeping through my t-shirt.

Alot of very strange and unexplainable things happened. The voice seemed hellbent on convincing me I was dead too. It wanted me to face a certain direction and I noticed when I did the voice would get louder and more intense. At one point the voice said "Now that I have his undivided attention, I concentrate on his frontal lobe". I felt hands on each side of my face after that.

Something fairly strange that happened was after the voice told me I was going to get carpol tunnel syndrome my hands went ice cold and started sweating excessively for no logical reason.

Should I just assume it was my subconscious speaking to me or was there something else involved? The reason I posted in the psionics forum is because of that statement it made about psionic frequencies. I might have heard about psionics but I didnt know exactly what it was at the time.

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It is difficult to give you a real indepth occult examination because it doesn't sound like you were attempting to acheive any mystical/magickal goals. Its sounds like you just had a reaction to such a strong dose of weed. By smoking the weed you triggered within your brain a cascade of synaptic responses that induced such a reaction. My "occult" opinion is you are appraching the point in the magician's path where he either achieves a new level of being bringing greater understanding and self empowerment or you totally loose you mind and become a raving lunatic. If you are having hallucinations *while sober* - both vissual and auditory you need a doctor. I'm starting to wonder if maybe in one of your drug induced episodes you didn't accidently hit your head or receive some sort of head trauma. I had a friend who went on a speed binge for 30 days and and then 3 months later realized he had a concussion. He only haead bad head aches though. If you're not a mental case then about the only other rational explaination I can think of is you have some kind of unresolved head injury. I heard, I could be wrong, people who expereince seizures sometimes reported hearing and seeing things while having an episode. If you are prone to epilepcy or having these expereinces while sober I'd suggest you avoid further drug use. Do not use for a period of time and if the hallucinations go away then you know the problem is what ever drugs. Marijuana is considered a mild hallucinogen. So if you had a high tollerance and then dropped it as well as all the other drugs you were doing, that would explain why you had an experience.

I remember when I was a lot younger I'd used to get so fried out of my mind then walking back to school I'd think that I could hear my legs walking and they made a mechanical sound. I remember another time I thought could hear buzzing noises or people laughing who weren't really there. Also I remember hearing voices before. Like people talking but I could never really understand them. I've seen trippy colors. I've felt 6 feet tall or 2 feet tall. I've had drug induced dreams where I talked to leprauchans or fairies. The greatest trips I've had off of drugs, aside from acid were off of hashish. We'd make that shit right in my friends house then sit there for a few days and get royally fucked up on that and what ever other drugs we had. I remember that each time I used to go to the bathroom the mirror in their seemed like a pool of water sitting on the wall. Of course then there is the whole myrriad of movies, tv shows, music, web pages and video games that just were all mind blowing on drugs. I stopped using drugs like that about 2 years ago. Then I stopped smoking weed for 7 months. Once I started smoking again I had a similar affect where I thought I was freaking out, it'd only last for maybe 10-15 minutes at a time and self talk pretty much kept me calm. But this only happened when I got high alone and it'd only take a couple good hits off some kill to just throw my socks off. Once I started smoking pretty regular again it all pretty much went away. I can't remember the exact psychological terminology but basically when the mind is exposed for so long to multiple drugs it starts to accociate similar affects with them. For example I used to feel like I was spun off weed because I used to smoke speed or coke mixed with weed. Or smoke weed while taking hits of acid or weed and x or weed and alcohol (thats probably the one I capitalized on the most) with the common denominator being weed its no wonder why I have so many different affects from it. So in all likeliness you're probably not crazy. But I also find it hard to relate your experience to anything "occult". Any spiritual experiences there are to be had from this are entirely up to you to find. If the problem persists this is indeed something you want a doctor to help you with and I'd be afraid to perscribe any sort of magickal appraoch for fear of making your situation worse.

However I can translate your french:

I.N.R.I.

In Necis Renascor Integre
In Just [Necis Renascor=latin I think]

(Dans la mort renaître intact et pur)
In death to reappear intact and pure

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I.N.R.I.

Exotérique : Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudorum
Not sure, Exotic? Essoteric? Jesus of Nazareth, Rex ludorum sound like latin to me


Ésotérique :
Essoteric

Igne Natura Renovatur Integra
If this is litterally what your father wrote its probably in some dialect I don't understand. I know the Creole French is a bit different.

(Car c’est à l’aide du feu et dans le feu même que notre hémisphère sera bientôt éprouvé)
Because it is using fire and in fire even as our hemisphere will be tested soon

Light Witch/ Sorcière(Victime) de(la) Lumière

(Pseudonyme : Danielle Abott / (Andolf)

demande EN MARRIAGEx2
Demand in marriage 2 times (not sure what this means)

Progrès = pp.58/17 Déc.= (XXD) dialogue = Yvon Amanda…
Progress = pp.58/Dec 17 = (XXD) dialogue = Yvon Amanda

(pp.60 = problèmes génétiques des gris)
genetic problems of the gray
Sounds like he's describing excerpts from some book

Insertions : Amanda fait de longues balades en raquette p :46-58=76/ elle picole en douce (vin rouge ?)
Amanda makes the long ones stroll in racket p :46-58=76/ it picole into soft (red wine?)

Leçon de télépathie/ soir de la prière inversée et jours suivants… + Flash sur religions humaines
Lesson of telepathy evening of the reversed prayer and following days... +Flash on human religions

24 Décembre au soir : Amanda rencontre le prêtre père Xavier, 36 ans, qui remplace le vieux curé du village malade… Elle entend cependant le prêtre penser depuis que les gris lui ont offert leurs dons…. Courant de conscience, monologue intérieur, pensées mobiles…– il finit par prendre peur…
December 24 at the evening: Amanda meets the priest father Xavier, 36 years, which replaces the old priest of the sick village... It intends the priest however to think since the gray offered their gifts to him... . Current of conscience, stream of consciousness, mobile thoughts...-- it ends up taking fear...

En février, les rats ont recours aux hologrammes : dont une scène avec le père d’Amanda : « Amanda parle-moi » »Je préfererais parler à du az lacrymogènes, osti de vieux schnock! »
In February, the rats have recourse to the holograms: of which a scene with the father of Amanda : “Amanda speaks to me”” I would prefer speech with az lachrymatory, osti of old fathead!

You're father sounds like he's speaking in tongues, if not he very eccentric. If he is attempting to communicate to you through some "code" I would disregard these emails unless you know his "code". I honestly would not even try to discern any real meaning out of this. But you can make of it what you will. Perhaps somebody would translate it a little differently.


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Xochipilli   Speed Induced "hallucinations"   Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
Xochipilli   Also I should mention my dads an occultist and thi...   Dec 1 2006, 01:01 AM
smasher666   Greetings Xochipilli', Bro I feel for you but...   Dec 1 2006, 04:36 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   While I do have to agree with Smasher on this abou...   Dec 1 2006, 12:14 PM
Darkmage   Dude, Methamphetamine is NOT the way to go. Trust ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:45 PM
Xochipilli   I'm way ahead of youz. I had intended that to ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:46 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Spirits, esp. low-level ones, like to play pr...   Dec 1 2006, 12:52 PM
Xochipilli   I agree with you on that darkmage. Drugs like spee...   Dec 1 2006, 01:04 PM
distillate   I've never been able to except the notion that...   Dec 1 2006, 01:17 PM
Xochipilli   If it was a spirit it definately was trying to sca...   Dec 1 2006, 01:24 PM
distillate   "Go back to Ireland and never come back....   Dec 1 2006, 02:09 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I got that same message from a spirit sunday. That...   Dec 1 2006, 06:21 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Thanx for the suggestion and the kind words, ...   Dec 1 2006, 01:25 PM
Xochipilli   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 1 2006, 01:46 PM
Darkmage   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 2 2006, 12:10 PM
distillate   And exercise and the self-discipline that goes alo...   Dec 1 2006, 01:47 PM
distillate   Well I was pretty blasted Sunday when I got that m...   Dec 1 2006, 06:38 PM
Faustopheles   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 2 2006, 03:19 AM
distillate   remember that addication is not fun, and withdrawl...   Dec 2 2006, 05:13 AM
Enochian   Its not the meth its the lack of food and sleep. M...   Dec 2 2006, 10:09 AM
Xochipilli   That all makes alot of sense to me. Although I did...   Dec 2 2006, 12:19 PM
Xochipilli   Another thing I forgot to mention is a few days be...   Dec 2 2006, 12:30 PM
Faustopheles   Yeah theres alot of con artists out there. I hear ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:03 PM
Darkmage   @Xochipilli: Fear will shut down any progress you...   Dec 2 2006, 01:18 PM
Xochipilli   I have to say nearly everything to do with the occ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:48 PM
Enochian   Try the gnostic way of purity my friend. Im intere...   Dec 2 2006, 03:09 PM
Xochipilli   I've already started. Im off the drugs altoget...   Dec 4 2006, 02:14 AM
Enochian   Awesome i wanna go.   Dec 4 2006, 10:36 AM
Acid09   Now I know that everybody who has experienced ...   Dec 4 2006, 04:02 PM
distillate   The body can only go for so long with out sleep. T...   Dec 4 2006, 08:06 PM
Xochipilli   That would explain the whole thing acid. I can se...   Dec 5 2006, 01:45 AM
Enochian   LOL american rehab equals drugs are easy to get be...   Dec 5 2006, 12:44 PM
Acid09   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 6 2006, 06:27 PM
distillate   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 8 2006, 12:50 PM
Xochipilli   Not to mention psilocybin containing mushrooms, ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:42 PM
Xochipilli   The same way I have pages for all the different Az...   Dec 7 2006, 03:56 PM
Acid09   I think just about any drug could be said to have...   Dec 9 2006, 12:59 PM
distillate   I take it either you've never been through any...   Dec 9 2006, 03:30 PM
Xochipilli   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very r...   Dec 10 2006, 03:27 PM
distillate   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very re...   Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM
Acid09   I don't know where you are located but you mi...   Dec 14 2006, 02:15 PM
Enochian   Just read" the teachings of Don Juan" by...   Dec 14 2006, 02:55 PM
Xochipilli   A little update on my psychosis. Weeds been havin...   Mar 3 2007, 01:37 PM
Xochipilli   A side not I keep hearing "How there you...   Mar 6 2007, 12:53 AM
Xochipilli   Ah I found it. Heres an excerpt from an article de...   Mar 6 2007, 02:11 AM
Acid09   Well you at least sound like you're lucid and ...   Mar 8 2007, 05:30 PM

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