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Xochipilli
post Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
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Now I know that everybody who has experienced "hallucinations" from staying up days on methamphetamine will almost always put it down to speed induced psychosis but after having a very lifelike conversation with a voice in after 3 days of sleep deprivation and lack of food im starting to question how imaginary these so called hallucinations really are.

Im interested in hearing opinions on the subject from occultists. I had no idea what psionics were until I had this experience. The voice talked about all sorts of things but at one point it said "Seeing as your more in tune with this dimension where deceased people reside, I can send you psionic frequencies". Also the voice asked me if it was my first psychedelic encounter.

Another very strange detail was the fact that after the voice told me it was going to give me a wet willy I actually felt a cold finger poke me in the back. It either felt like a cold finger or cold water seeping through my t-shirt.

Alot of very strange and unexplainable things happened. The voice seemed hellbent on convincing me I was dead too. It wanted me to face a certain direction and I noticed when I did the voice would get louder and more intense. At one point the voice said "Now that I have his undivided attention, I concentrate on his frontal lobe". I felt hands on each side of my face after that.

Something fairly strange that happened was after the voice told me I was going to get carpol tunnel syndrome my hands went ice cold and started sweating excessively for no logical reason.

Should I just assume it was my subconscious speaking to me or was there something else involved? The reason I posted in the psionics forum is because of that statement it made about psionic frequencies. I might have heard about psionics but I didnt know exactly what it was at the time.

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post Mar 6 2007, 12:53 AM
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A side not I keep hearing "How there you" now. The voice keeps changing what it says every few weeks or so. Also I should add when i hear it the most i have a mild headache. Right now my heads hurting and im having more mild visual and auritory hallucinations that usual.

I definately didnt bang my head while doing speed but 6 months ago i went head first into the side of a moving car. This very second I heard a voice say "Your haunted" and "your pushing your luck". Im pretty sure its my ego or subconscious talking but id like to examine all possibilites. Since I do believe in the paranormal I do still consider that a possibility although not a very likely one. People on this forum seem to know their shit when it comes to the occult so youd know better than i would if what im dealing with is a demon trying to gain control of some part of me. I dont at all believe that myself but ive been reading about loads of schizophrenic people who visit psychics and thats what the psychics tell them so i keep an open mind.

By the way Ive been having slight auditory and visual hallucinations for years now it was definately caused by smoking cannabis at first id only percieve it while stoned but now I percieve it really mildly while sober too. Nothing too out of the ordinary just blue static and the impression that solid objects arent really inert but are constantly moving. Just there I saw a little to the right of the computer screen this little black streak appear fly about 5 inches to the right and disappear. In fact im having lots of them at this very moment. About 10 inches above where i saw the black streak i saw a little yellow light about 5 cm in diameter flash on and off. Neither of these were seen in the center of vision so its one of those corner of the eye things. I'll make a flash animation on top of a photo one of these days and recreate what i see. The lights are fairly vivid though slightly like lasers. The best example i can give you is when you turn on the playstation 2 and that little blue light goes on. These lights are mostly goldish yellow or dark blue like the playstation light. FUCKKKKKK its happening way more that usual since im writing about it and i can hear a flicker sound that comes with it. I just saw that same golden orange light flash in the air further to the right this time. This is fuckin weird.

This visual stuff is nothing new though i noticed it happening years ago. The best ive ever seen it was after taking xtc and smoking weed. Id literally be able to stare directly at them before they disappeared. Naturally im fairly perceptive of whats in my visual field, i can spot little pieces of fluff, hair or dust floating by me but xtc speeds my mind up so that I catch everything. I mighjt be insane. If I was I wouldnt know it would I? Im definately not prone to epilepsy or any other illnesses though.

Since that speed experience ive taken xtc once and mushrooms once and not only was i fine with them they improved my mind and made me analyse myself like they always do its the weed that does me in. The minute cannabis comes into the equation things go nuts. Ive smoked the stuff for 8 years and never had any problems with it apart from extreme laziness up until 2 years ago. Believe me I know the psychedelic effects of ganja the first times i smoked it id looking in the mirror and see my face as a big complex jigsaw puzzle. When id breath in and out I saw a meter with bars going up and down. After about 2 or 3 years the stuff had little or no effects on me (side not i saw that orange flashing light again this time even further to the right but lower down, its almost the exact same color as my wall paint) but then for some weird reason about two years ago i started getting excessively paranoid and delusional.

Its no problem at all though. I can cut these voices off at will by changing my thoughts (which is probably a dead giveaway its all in my head) its just whenever anything happens that has even the slightest possbility of being occult I'll go to extreme lengths for proof. Ive been like that my whole life. Ive only had 2 experiences which could possibly be called paranormal. One when I was about 8 I always used to hear footsteps of someone walking around on the landing in the middle of the night so id jump up out of bed to see who it was and there was nobody there. My grandad died of a heart attack and I found him lying halfway on the stairs and landing. I always thought the footsteps might have been his ghost.

2nd weird thing I saw was some days when i was kid id look out my window at night and i lived by the beach so id be staring at the see and id see this orange light which at first I thought was a ship but it would move from side to side and fly away. Thought it could have been a helicopter too but it looked way bigger. One day me and my friend decided to flash a camera out the window because it looked like lightning in the back garden and we noticed this light way out over the see and at one point the light slowly flew up and started getting closer and closer. It looked bigger than a helicopter at this point and when i stopped flashing the camera it flew back over the sea and resumed its position. I desperately wanted to know what the hell it was but could never find out. Pity.

Anyway about this head business I went over the alternative possibilities so I have no doubts that theres absolutely nothing paranormal about it only psychological. As for the slight visual hallucinations all our brains are wired slightly differently obviously the weed rewired my brain slighly so I have a more psychedelic field of visual than usual. If anything its an advantage. It livens up my visual field and i can distinguish it from actual physical objects like hairs or floating dust so it has no downsides.

Thanks for the comments acid. They have more value to me since theyre coming from someone who has experience in both drugs and the occult.

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Xochipilli   Speed Induced "hallucinations"   Dec 1 2006, 12:53 AM
Xochipilli   Also I should mention my dads an occultist and thi...   Dec 1 2006, 01:01 AM
smasher666   Greetings Xochipilli', Bro I feel for you but...   Dec 1 2006, 04:36 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   While I do have to agree with Smasher on this abou...   Dec 1 2006, 12:14 PM
Darkmage   Dude, Methamphetamine is NOT the way to go. Trust ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:45 PM
Xochipilli   I'm way ahead of youz. I had intended that to ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:46 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Spirits, esp. low-level ones, like to play pr...   Dec 1 2006, 12:52 PM
Xochipilli   I agree with you on that darkmage. Drugs like spee...   Dec 1 2006, 01:04 PM
distillate   I've never been able to except the notion that...   Dec 1 2006, 01:17 PM
Xochipilli   If it was a spirit it definately was trying to sca...   Dec 1 2006, 01:24 PM
distillate   "Go back to Ireland and never come back....   Dec 1 2006, 02:09 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I got that same message from a spirit sunday. That...   Dec 1 2006, 06:21 PM
Darkmage   Heh. Thanx for the suggestion and the kind words, ...   Dec 1 2006, 01:25 PM
Xochipilli   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 1 2006, 01:46 PM
Darkmage   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 2 2006, 12:10 PM
distillate   And exercise and the self-discipline that goes alo...   Dec 1 2006, 01:47 PM
distillate   Well I was pretty blasted Sunday when I got that m...   Dec 1 2006, 06:38 PM
Faustopheles   As malicious and insulting as the voice was it act...   Dec 2 2006, 03:19 AM
distillate   remember that addication is not fun, and withdrawl...   Dec 2 2006, 05:13 AM
Enochian   Its not the meth its the lack of food and sleep. M...   Dec 2 2006, 10:09 AM
Xochipilli   That all makes alot of sense to me. Although I did...   Dec 2 2006, 12:19 PM
Xochipilli   Another thing I forgot to mention is a few days be...   Dec 2 2006, 12:30 PM
Faustopheles   Yeah theres alot of con artists out there. I hear ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:03 PM
Darkmage   @Xochipilli: Fear will shut down any progress you...   Dec 2 2006, 01:18 PM
Xochipilli   I have to say nearly everything to do with the occ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:48 PM
Enochian   Try the gnostic way of purity my friend. Im intere...   Dec 2 2006, 03:09 PM
Xochipilli   I've already started. Im off the drugs altoget...   Dec 4 2006, 02:14 AM
Enochian   Awesome i wanna go.   Dec 4 2006, 10:36 AM
Acid09   Now I know that everybody who has experienced ...   Dec 4 2006, 04:02 PM
distillate   The body can only go for so long with out sleep. T...   Dec 4 2006, 08:06 PM
Xochipilli   That would explain the whole thing acid. I can se...   Dec 5 2006, 01:45 AM
Enochian   LOL american rehab equals drugs are easy to get be...   Dec 5 2006, 12:44 PM
Acid09   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 6 2006, 06:27 PM
distillate   I'd throw in marijuana, x and datura seeds to ...   Dec 8 2006, 12:50 PM
Xochipilli   Not to mention psilocybin containing mushrooms, ...   Dec 7 2006, 03:42 PM
Xochipilli   The same way I have pages for all the different Az...   Dec 7 2006, 03:56 PM
Acid09   I think just about any drug could be said to have...   Dec 9 2006, 12:59 PM
distillate   I take it either you've never been through any...   Dec 9 2006, 03:30 PM
Xochipilli   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very r...   Dec 10 2006, 03:27 PM
distillate   My ma suggested me going to rehab for that very re...   Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM
Acid09   I don't know where you are located but you mi...   Dec 14 2006, 02:15 PM
Enochian   Just read" the teachings of Don Juan" by...   Dec 14 2006, 02:55 PM
Xochipilli   A little update on my psychosis. Weeds been havin...   Mar 3 2007, 01:37 PM
Acid09   It is difficult to give you a real indepth occult ...   Mar 5 2007, 06:13 PM
Xochipilli   Ah I found it. Heres an excerpt from an article de...   Mar 6 2007, 02:11 AM
Acid09   Well you at least sound like you're lucid and ...   Mar 8 2007, 05:30 PM

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