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post Jan 25 2007, 04:35 PM
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Well . . . lets start this new forum off with an obvious.
What do people consider to be Left Hand Path?

Of course, this question isn't intending or expecting everyone (or anyone) to agree on a definition . . . or even to be a thread building to a consensus.
Only as a way of describing the varieties of the concept - LHP

I'm personally not so fond of the Blavaskian use of LHP as describing a state of immorality (spiritually), nor do I find Crowley's idea that is the failed adept acceptable.

For me, in a very general . . . its the process of developing the self (spiritually and materially) rather then sacrificing or dissolving the self.
Being fully and singly responsible for oneself and ones actions.
Being entitled to everything one can be (materially and spiritually)
And that the world around each of us (phenomonally and spiritually) is designed for personal integration and application.
Many aspects of the above are best presented and developed through acts of Love, alturism and compassion. As well, all require self-confidence, a distinct level of self-worth, and a strongly developing self-knowledge.

anyway . . . others thoughts . . ?

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post Mar 4 2007, 04:54 PM
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To me LHP and RHP is a somewhat dated Medieval concept. Guilt drives thick definitions of LHP -- not the guilt of the practitioner, but of the critics. I don't consider myself either (middle way, all the way, true Buddhist that way... Buddha showed that the middle way is the only viable way in the end after years of struggling with ultra right hand path -- ascetism -- and after being brought up as a self-indulgent prince (left hand?).

But we're well past the dark ages. Self-path is the only one that truly matters in my humble opinion. That isn't to say that the self can't be generous, giving, helpful, charitable, noble, caring... (or self-centered and closed if that's the path chosen) it's just that defining paths, and making someone feel guilty about their own path by trying to pin an archetypal LHP or RHP on them, seems wrong for the twenty-first century? Just my feelings on it. I think all paths take us on journeys, ultimately, to the same destination. Some of us take short cuts, some of us are quite comfortable taking the scenic route.

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QUOTE(Mezu @ Mar 4 2007, 02:54 PM) *
To me LHP and RHP is a somewhat dated Medieval concept. Guilt drives thick definitions of LHP -- not the guilt of the practitioner, but of the critics. I don't consider myself either (middle way, all the way, true Buddhist that way... Buddha showed that the middle way is the only viable way in the end after years of struggling with ultra right hand path -- ascetism -- and after being brought up as a self-indulgent prince (left hand?).

But we're well past the dark ages. Self-path is the only one that truly matters in my humble opinion. That isn't to say that the self can't be generous, giving, helpful, charitable, noble, caring... (or self-centered and closed if that's the path chosen) it's just that defining paths, and making someone feel guilty about their own path by trying to pin an archetypal LHP or RHP on them, seems wrong for the twenty-first century? Just my feelings on it. I think all paths take us on journeys, ultimately, to the same destination. Some of us take short cuts, some of us are quite comfortable taking the scenic route.


There is no one right path... we all take the path that calls for us.

True words you speak, I agree.

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palindroem   What Is Lhp   Jan 25 2007, 04:35 PM
Seraphim   Greetings, Very much agreed Palindrome. Althou...   Jan 25 2007, 04:49 PM
WyrdScience   Seeing as how I try to be MHP as possible, I looke...   Jan 25 2007, 04:59 PM
DeathStalker   Before I begin, I must state that the below are my...   Jan 26 2007, 03:02 AM
Alafair   This is a very fine post and the LHP may be summed...   Feb 7 2007, 02:06 PM
Eyes of God   I belive that we may define our existence in anywa...   Feb 1 2007, 12:17 PM
Sojrn   Why live in squalor as a prerequisite to attaining...   Mar 4 2007, 01:42 PM
Acid09   I simply view the LHP in contrast to the RHP as an...   Mar 7 2007, 07:04 PM
Uni_Verse   All roads lead to Rome. The Path is the same for ...   Oct 4 2007, 02:10 PM
Noxifer_616   All roads lead to Rome. The Path is the same for ...   Oct 4 2007, 08:39 PM
Uni_Verse   If you are united with your Godhood, are you not a...   Oct 5 2007, 11:04 AM
Noxifer_616   If you are united with your Godhood, are you not a...   Oct 5 2007, 11:18 AM
Uni_Verse   An individual creation... Where you are the Univer...   Oct 6 2007, 05:13 AM
paxx   I would like to propose that you take something on...   Oct 20 2007, 04:48 AM
Pandora   I think LHP means like, independant of the church....   Oct 21 2007, 10:27 PM
Petrus   This is a question I've have turning over in m...   Nov 30 2007, 08:47 AM
xXDaemonReignXx   For me, in a very general . . . its the process ...   Oct 7 2009, 10:39 AM
Kath   I actually found wikipedia to be kinda insightful ...   Oct 10 2009, 07:33 AM
Vilhjalmr   Altruism is self-deception, eh? I hate Ayn Rand ...   Nov 24 2009, 04:03 PM
Kath   actually I'd take that as kinda a bad sign. th...   Nov 25 2009, 02:31 AM
th0th   I see a lot of really solid answers here. In my o...   Mar 28 2010, 02:45 AM
Xenomancer   I would say the same of myself, save that I don...   Mar 28 2010, 07:57 AM
th0th   Well, of course that's valid :doh: but one ...   Mar 31 2010, 12:14 AM
esoterica   lhp vs rhp - anti-clockwise versus clockwise - wid...   Mar 31 2010, 08:47 AM
Kath   I would say the same of myself, save that I don...   Jun 13 2010, 03:30 PM
Vilhjalmr   actually I'd take that as kinda a bad sign. t...   Jun 16 2010, 05:15 AM
Kath   I think Rand appeals to a certain emotional mindse...   Jun 16 2010, 08:44 AM
Praxis   The problem I have with the phrases "Left Han...   Nov 14 2011, 01:50 PM

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