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Praxis
post Aug 12 2005, 05:16 PM
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Does the paradigm revealed through the Necronomicon offer one a "path" for a practitioner to walk that is akin to pursuring The Great Work?

If so:

What is it?
What is happens to a practitioner while engaging it?
What is the results from a practitioner completing it?


I ask that question (and the collaries) because I suspect that more exists with regard to dealing with the various Powers referenced in that book - beyond merely calling up Elder Gods and other sundry entities for the sake of satisfying mundane desires.

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post Mar 15 2007, 07:43 PM
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Greetings Imperial Arts,

What Brother Eabatu is stating, is that this Path is NOT ceremonial magick. This is magick of the self and it's relationship to creation. Tools are not in any way required for this. You say that you should get the very best tools you can. Well... we already have them.We were born with them. Our tools our are hands, hearts, minds and willpower. They are the purest, strongest tools possible.
What is the power of a simple copper knife to that of the flesh? The flesh is strong and the will is stronger. Combined they are a pure connection to the forces of creation. Do we not have iron in our very blood?
And further, I highly doubt gaining a religious tool through theft is a very auspicious beginning to an endeavor of communing with the Gods.
As far as being uncertain about what was going to happen in your Necronomicon working, well that seemed to have defeated you right there. This isn't '' i'm going to hide in a circle, clutch my sword and spit barbarous words so the spirit will be nice to me''. It's a system of faith in what you are doing, respect for yourself and the Gods/spirits, and having the balls to face the cosmos with nothing but ourselves. What were you so concerned about? I SERIOUSLY DOUBT if you f'ed up a few words or didn't have the correct visualization that something horrible was going to happen. Did you think Pazuzu was going to pop out of a box and bite your head off?lol

Now, I have no problem whatsoever with folks using all kinds of tools and circles and wands, whatever. If it makes you happy, go for it. I just believe falling into the trap of thinking you need help from a piece of metal or a chalk circle in order to do your Work will eventually turn you into a magickal eunuch.
Nosotro Tehuti.


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Praxis   Getting Started WIth Necronomicon   Aug 12 2005, 05:16 PM
Merlin   I have been reading the Necronomicon by Simon and ...   Aug 12 2005, 06:45 PM
thief_and_a_liar   Olieribos, yah, that's the one noone really ge...   Aug 12 2005, 07:28 PM
Merlin   I thank you for your help, but I have read that th...   Aug 12 2005, 11:00 PM
Ashnook   I sent you the PM regarding Oliberos, as far as th...   Aug 13 2005, 09:16 AM
Ashnook   1. The Gates of the Necronomicon 2. That all dep...   Aug 13 2005, 09:38 AM
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Ashnook   Do be honest ive no idea lol but this is the exper...   Aug 13 2005, 05:19 PM
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Praxis   1. What is the word for the paradigm revealed by t...   Aug 14 2005, 07:05 AM
Ashnook   1. What is the word for the paradigm revealed by t...   Mar 15 2006, 01:32 AM
smasher666   8. After this lifetime, what happens to the practi...   Apr 20 2006, 09:38 PM
Ashnook   ill be glad to answer these questions tonight my f...   Aug 14 2005, 08:56 AM
Praxis   Ashnook - this has been one loooong night! (la...   Mar 14 2006, 08:50 AM
Marquis DeSade   Hello... Good to see a part of a forum dedicated ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:32 PM
Nero   I have but I am unsure how many on the forum has....   Oct 6 2005, 06:50 AM
nebo82   Greetings Love your site and just Dl ed the necron...   Oct 18 2005, 05:50 PM
Merlin   I am only beginning on the path of the necronomico...   Oct 19 2005, 09:45 PM
chaoscrowley37   I do not beleive the placement of the altar is of ...   Oct 19 2005, 10:14 PM
Merlin   Very good point, I had forgotten that there was no...   Oct 20 2005, 03:12 AM
Nero   I believe the alter is supposed to go in the cent...   Oct 20 2005, 09:43 AM
nebo82   Well thank you all so far. My opinion was outside ...   Oct 20 2005, 12:21 PM
Ashnook   inside the circle facing north...if walking the ga...   Oct 25 2005, 07:26 PM
chaos_mage4   Yeah I'm a newbie to the Nec also lol, but yea...   Jun 27 2006, 07:41 PM
Marquis DeSade   Since I want to begin Nec work soon I would like s...   Nov 27 2005, 12:47 AM
AlricThomas   All you need is a strong will and the Necronomic...   Nov 27 2005, 09:01 PM
Ashnook   All you need is a strong will and the Necronomico...   Nov 30 2005, 04:44 PM
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Mathias   Ashnook, Are you still planning to record yoursel...   Dec 1 2005, 06:54 PM
Ashnook   At some point in the future, I am. Ashnook   Dec 1 2005, 08:16 PM
ominous   I must say that since Ive been reading the nec for...   Dec 14 2005, 09:37 PM
Nero   Ashnook's Nec Class Thread is the best place ...   Dec 15 2005, 10:00 AM
juriaan   I have been using spells and envocations from the ...   Dec 17 2005, 06:41 AM
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distillate   There is major difference I see between the sol...   Apr 7 2006, 06:40 PM
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distillate   There is major difference I see between the so...   Apr 8 2006, 07:55 PM
Skinwalker   [quote name='Skinwalker' post='13901' date='Apr 8 ...   Apr 9 2006, 04:56 AM
Praxis   I comprehend the comparison with a Mafia Boss beca...   Apr 9 2006, 09:52 AM
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Praxis   The Magickian is God. Skinwalker: All that statem...   Apr 11 2006, 09:39 AM
bym   I'd like to add my two cents worth please... I...   Apr 9 2006, 09:39 PM
distillate   I'd like to add my two cents worth plerase... ...   Apr 9 2006, 11:50 PM
Ashnook   ROFL. Every post made here has signified much tru...   Apr 14 2006, 10:33 PM
smasher666   ROFL. Every post made here has signified much tru...   Apr 20 2006, 09:32 PM
dedicated 2 u   I want to break some spells I made before but I do...   Jul 19 2006, 02:09 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I want to break some spells I made before but I do...   Jul 19 2006, 02:50 PM
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dedicated 2 u   Thank you very much guys. I'm planning to burn...   Jul 20 2006, 02:32 PM
Penny_Lane   I've been using the Simon Necronomicon for 18 ...   Aug 3 2006, 04:27 AM
smasher666   I've been using the Simon Necronomicon for 18 ...   Sep 9 2006, 03:26 AM
Eyes of God   I am not a seasoned magichian, and I was wondering...   Aug 14 2006, 06:39 AM
Ashnook   I am not a seasoned magichian, and I was wondering...   Aug 14 2006, 11:52 AM
smasher666   I am not a seasoned magichian, and I was wondering...   Aug 19 2006, 12:23 AM
smasher666   I am not a seasoned magichian, and I was wondering...   Sep 10 2006, 01:58 AM
gmcbroom   Has anyone here successfully used the book but sup...   Aug 16 2006, 05:17 PM
smasher666   Has anyone here successfully used the book but sup...   Aug 19 2006, 12:02 AM
Enigmius   What about following the rules but adding other el...   Aug 19 2006, 12:13 AM
smasher666   What about following the rules but adding other el...   Aug 19 2006, 12:18 AM
Enigmius   What about following the rules but adding other e...   Aug 19 2006, 12:44 AM
smasher666   [quote name='smasher666' post='17513' date='Aug 19...   Aug 19 2006, 12:49 AM
Enigmius   Thanks. I really would like to try out the Simon...   Aug 19 2006, 01:12 AM
Penny_Lane   My experience may not be typical, but I had done n...   Aug 27 2006, 04:29 AM
juriaan   I would say, wait until you feel you are ready. Pr...   Aug 31 2006, 04:50 AM
nyechna   Hiya I´m fairly new to working with the Simon Nec...   Sep 1 2006, 08:40 AM
+ Kinjo -   it says that the sword must be struck into the gro...   Sep 1 2006, 01:12 PM
smasher666   Yes, just get a large enough pot full of earth to ...   Sep 1 2006, 08:06 PM
juriaan   I prefusre working outside, the stars and air will...   Sep 1 2006, 09:53 AM
PureNaturEnergy   Another thing you can make is a small stand with a...   Sep 2 2006, 10:11 AM
bleachXlight   recently i charged and launched a sigil that someo...   Sep 6 2006, 04:49 PM
Ashnook   recently i charged and launched a sigil that someo...   Sep 6 2006, 08:50 PM
smasher666   recently i charged and launched a sigil that someo...   Sep 6 2006, 09:45 PM
bleachXlight   thank you very much i don't know yet maybe i ...   Sep 6 2006, 11:32 PM
squoze   i am new to magick right now i am studying from th...   Sep 8 2006, 06:21 PM
smasher666   i am new to magick right now i am studying from th...   Sep 8 2006, 10:08 PM
PureNaturEnergy   Like frater Smasher said you need to call your Ban...   Sep 11 2006, 04:36 PM
spellcaster   So I into magick for about one month, and am still...   Jan 25 2007, 01:02 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings 'spellcaster, Simons Necronomicon i...   Jan 25 2007, 06:59 PM
Joseph   Greetings 'spellcaster, Simons Necronomicon i...   Jan 25 2007, 07:59 PM
Edunpanna   Greetings 'Joseph' I compare the 7 planet...   Jan 25 2007, 09:35 PM
Penny_Lane   So I into magick for about one month, and am still...   Jan 26 2007, 07:23 AM
FraterMikael   Classifying Magick into black and white categories...   Jan 25 2007, 06:20 PM
Eabatu   The Ancient Ones are UNCREATION as far as I come t...   Jan 25 2007, 10:04 PM
spellcaster   Ok, I hope that you guys can make some stuff clear...   Jan 27 2007, 01:55 PM
gmcbroom   If I may be so bold. I hate to ask it but have yo...   Jan 27 2007, 03:46 PM
spellcaster   Ok, you just did two things: told me everything an...   Jan 27 2007, 05:30 PM
Eabatu   1) For 50 names callings Bandar is not neccessary ...   Jan 27 2007, 07:55 PM
spellcaster   Ok, tnx. But when do I give the sacrifice? before,...   Jan 28 2007, 05:05 AM
nyechna   Hi Spellcaster. If you are just working with the ...   Jan 28 2007, 06:14 AM
spellcaster   Hi Spellcaster. If you are just working with the ...   Jan 28 2007, 08:04 AM
nyechna   are there any banishings that I shuld know or is L...   Jan 28 2007, 09:26 AM
spellcaster   As it says in the Necronomicon, the LBRP won´t wor...   Jan 28 2007, 10:38 AM
gmcbroom   The ones in the Nec. are great but a faster one is...   Jan 28 2007, 02:55 PM
Eabatu   It so happens I happen to have created an effectiv...   Jan 28 2007, 04:32 PM
Edunpanna   It so happens I happen to have created an effectiv...   Jan 28 2007, 04:38 PM
spellcaster   It so happens I happen to have created an effectiv...   Jan 28 2007, 07:34 PM
Eabatu   Well what do you think? Considering you are using ...   Jan 28 2007, 08:24 PM
spellcaster   Ok. Tnx Ebatu, for makeing this clear to me. Shuld...   Jan 29 2007, 01:28 PM
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