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thelemite
post Feb 3 2007, 01:27 PM
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Hey all!

I was just wondering how of you believe in fate, meaning that your lifes course is already written for you?

and if you believe in such a thing, can your fate be changed somehow? can you neglect your fate or our you controlled by forces outside your control?

My personal view (at the moment, it will probably change after this discussion) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) is that people have certain things they are good at and certain things they are not, but I do not actually believe in fate at this time as don't like the idea of not being in control. I guess whether your LHP or RHP has a lot to do with it.

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Nightshade
post Mar 15 2007, 12:25 PM
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mmm i believe that before we come into this life WE chose our lifes and lessons we have to take but ... i believe that nothing is absolutely certain and that we can achieve some changes. Prophecy is to see a tendecy of the future , it might happen , it might not.
i don't think that magick manipulates universal laws, it's another level of education and a different way to get you through life.


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post Mar 15 2007, 06:30 PM
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[Greetings'Nightshade,

I agree that prophecy and all forms of divination only tell of the most likely current future. Time is like a large body of water. Right now it may be calm but if you throw a rock in it will splash and make ripples.

If we get a Tarot reading for example and we believe whatever the medium says about the future then the future is set exactly as predicted by our minds. However if we do not like the reading we could refuse to accept it and immediately the future is altered.

There is much to be said for prudential forethought.

I do not believe in fate or pre-destiny. I believe that we all determine our futures by what we do in the present. Realizing this truth we live magick and can manifest the world as we desire it to be.

I do believe in Karma. I believe that certain events in our lives are tests and are a part of our destiny. How we react to these challenges is not determined. It is not what happens but how we react to what happens. People will cross our paths who were meant to cross our paths. It is important what we do with such people and events as the outcome determines our future karma.

If our fates were predetermined there would not be good cause for our existence. Why do we exist? Surely our lives must have purpose. If we can recognize our life's tests and rise to the challenge we can alter not only our future but the future of others in a good way.

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valkyrie
post Mar 15 2007, 08:58 PM
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Ed----you make such good points i have to read back to remember what mine were! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I suppose you are right about existing without a purpose...fate just seems too cruel to be true. But then again ive always been a smidget of an existentialist. And it doesnt bother me because im just too tired to fight the tide (I swallow a lot of water). But i like your idea...it reminds me of "The Secret". Hehe. the law of attraction certainly SOUNDS nice. Plus there is a lot of therapists out there who emphasize changing negative thoughts to positive thoughts, i truly think there is merit in the theory and ive been trying to change my thoughts for years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/doh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)


yo whats kickin nightshade?! I dont know too much about what prophecy is...but would you argue that even though it may or may not happen cuz of future possibilities, its connected to an individual's fate? I mean if i were to cite many famous examples of prophecies...they often pertain to individual people (or i spose white buffalo...but im getting off topic...Ah! ADHD!)

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