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Praxis
post Aug 12 2005, 05:16 PM
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Does the paradigm revealed through the Necronomicon offer one a "path" for a practitioner to walk that is akin to pursuring The Great Work?

If so:

What is it?
What is happens to a practitioner while engaging it?
What is the results from a practitioner completing it?


I ask that question (and the collaries) because I suspect that more exists with regard to dealing with the various Powers referenced in that book - beyond merely calling up Elder Gods and other sundry entities for the sake of satisfying mundane desires.

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post Mar 15 2007, 09:35 PM
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Greetings,

Eabatu and Nostoro you are both following a Shamanic type path I think with your sorceries.

Imperial is actually quite experienced with Ceremonial Magick. In practicing Ceremonial Magick the tools are very important.

For each tool an elaborate concentration is done during which a piece of ones self enters the tool as it attunes to our vibration rate. The more these tools are used during ritual the higher latent charge the tool retains. The tool then begins to amplify our magick.

I have a lot of tools and robes etc. Just the psychological effects of preparing for ritual is great for me. When fully prepared I am like a different person. I forget about my physical life and immerse myself completely into what I am doing. In my daily life I occasionally have doubts etc. After putting on my robe and cloak and drawing the sword I have no doubts. I enter a mind state in which I believe nothing on Earth over it or under it can resist the magick that I am doing.

Sometimes I come to a point in life where I hit a low. I may be depressed or tired. I do not during times like this have the energy to manifest my will properly. During these times I can always pull down energy through one of my tools and replenish myself. Just touching a tool during a troubling time seems to empower me.

Spending a lot of time and dedication making tools should not be held in contempt but applauded. After all the more you concentrate on such an object the more powerful it becomes. The most important time for the tool is the time during its creation. So taking a lot of time and care to do it right is extremely wise. All this attention to detail during its birth forces our essence into the object. Which makes it an extension of ourselves.

It is true that you can do the Necronomicon rituals without a lot of tools or garb however I do not believe that doing that is fully experiencing the power.

Imperial,

The passage regarding not spilling ones seed can be for the most part disregarded. I have been having sex on a regular basis for years during the moon of purification.

From the book of calling.

Thou must abstain from spilling thy seed in any manner for like period of time, but thou mayest worship at the Temple of ISHTAR, provided thou lose not thine Essence. And this is a great secret.

Ok in the temple of Ishtar soldiers paid temple prostitutes for some personal worship time.
So the Necronomicon is saying its ok to have sex if we worship at the temple of Ishtar and do not lose our essence.
Many women have the spirit of the Goddess within them. My wife for example is in truth a priestess. Her body is the temple of Inanna. By connecting with a priestess I connect with the Goddess in the sacred Hieros Gammos. So love making with her is permitted during the moon of purification.
What is meant by not losing ones essence? During the Moon of purification one should not masturbate or fornicate with frivolous women. Once chosen by Inanna there can be no other the Necronomicon states. And so it is against the covenant to be with a woman that the Goddess is not present in.
If one does not have a mate and can not contain ones self then masturbation is permitable so long as the act is done while thinking of the Goddess. The seed is then sacrificed to her and not lost.
The seed spilled with a lover returns to us in their affection and adoration. We have not lost our essence in this manner.
If no strings attached type sex is performed we lose our essence as that person does not return what we release to us.
I realize that many on the forum may have sexual orientations different than my own. The same rules apply regardless of preferences.
If you follow this manner of self constraint the gates are walked just as easily as if you had not spilt your seed at all.
Realistically though a man younger than 50 and especially a young man will have a very hard time not spilling ones seed for 28 days. For a young man this could be impossible. And so we must read between the lines to see through this blind.
As far as inscribing Nebo Gate on a Palm Leaf it also says that it can be written on fine parchment. Many occult supplies sell parchment paper which is just a really fine grade of papyrus like paper. Howe ever I have found the seals just as powerful on plain white computer paper.
Also the seals etc are supposed to be made on the metals of their sphere etc. Although I am currently working on those type of projects in the past I have always used just plain white paper. Using the metal etc makes a powerful amulet. Writing the signs in any manner connect us to the power of the particular gate.
Again we encounter a blind. The difficult in obtaining the proper metal etc put doubt in the mind of the pupil that the gate can be opened without it. The instructions are true to common sense in making amulets or pentacles. An experienced with other systems should see right away though this blind.
As far as being uncertain during ones first Necronomicon rituals goes….. I read the Necronomicon far a few years before I ever attempted anything in it. Initially I was afraid of it. There was no magick forum which I could log into to ask questions about the book. I had never met anyone who had walked the gates although my Brother, Cousin and a couple of friends were working with the Maklu text.
Yes I was afraid to try it. I have no shame in that. Fear often leads to proper caution. It is in the act of standing up to ones fear and accomplishing what needs to be done that is true courage. If something is dangerous and you have no fear of it you are not brave you are stupid. I was very cautious with the book for many years until one day it unlocked itself for me.
I actually stole my first copy of the Necronomicon at 13 much like Imperial stealing his copper for his knife. This is funny in that the Necronomicon claims to be a stolen manuscript. I do not condone theft but seriously when we were kids didn’t we all shoplift a little? Stolen objects may have properties more suitable for a tool than a bought tool. Consider this the time that you obtain a tool is its time of conception. If the object is stolen then we went through some trouble and risk to obtain it. Again I do not condone theft. What I am saying is we are probably all guilty of this crime in our youths.
We all have our own method of doing ritual. If we view our technique as superior to everyone else’s technique we close our minds to creative thought. There are many ways to skin a cat. If we examine others ways with an open mind we can always find something which could be helpful.
Even if one has no faith whatsoever that a Necronomicon spell will work. If one pays attention to detail and makes everything necessary the magick will still work. During the process of making the tool we gain a faith in it which we may not have had as beginners in magick.
Also making the gates and seals has a powerful subconscious effect.
So in short while tools may not be necessary they are quite useful.

May Anu Save us all.

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Praxis   Getting Started WIth Necronomicon   Aug 12 2005, 05:16 PM
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Ashnook   1. What is the word for the paradigm revealed by t...   Mar 15 2006, 01:32 AM
smasher666   8. After this lifetime, what happens to the practi...   Apr 20 2006, 09:38 PM
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Joseph   Greetings 'spellcaster, Simons Necronomicon i...   Jan 25 2007, 07:59 PM
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gmcbroom   If I may be so bold. I hate to ask it but have yo...   Jan 27 2007, 03:46 PM
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Eabatu   1) For 50 names callings Bandar is not neccessary ...   Jan 27 2007, 07:55 PM
spellcaster   Ok, tnx. But when do I give the sacrifice? before,...   Jan 28 2007, 05:05 AM
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nyechna   are there any banishings that I shuld know or is L...   Jan 28 2007, 09:26 AM
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Eabatu   Well what do you think? Considering you are using ...   Jan 28 2007, 08:24 PM
spellcaster   Ok. Tnx Ebatu, for makeing this clear to me. Shuld...   Jan 29 2007, 01:28 PM
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