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fatherjhon
post Mar 22 2007, 10:46 PM
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Greetings,

I have been for some six months now trying to develop my abilities with energy. Mostly by way of exercises suggested here, balls of energy, pushing out as much as possible for as long as possible, and the like. I have made some impressive gains in regard to the amount of energy and length of time I can gather, hold, and move it about. There are, however, one or two things that I for the life of me cannot quite get.

First, I cannot hold energy with out a conscious effort to do so. I at first thought I was another system of concentration, or lack there of, but I can do several things a once while holding energy. So it would seem that there is another reason for this.

Second, once I have internalized the energy- wherever it came form- I cannot project it far from my body. The farthest I have ever gotten is three inches. A similar problem is the energy once a got it out will not stay there for long, before flowing back in to me; like pushing water up hill.

With the notable exception of, putting energy in to an object, it will always comeback to me. All I could find was something I read about energy always coming back to its owner; it was in I karmic context, so it might not apply here.

I was wondering if anyone has had the same- or even mildly similar- problems, and if so how was it resolved; but any help would do nicely.

Cheery-Bye

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post Mar 24 2007, 01:39 AM
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http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?showtopic=2201

Energy follows intent. Perhaps you are trying to 'mucle it' or trying too hard. Energy goes where you mentally move it. It is really a shifting of consciousness. For instance, if you put your hands up closer to your face and become more conscious of your hands, your energy shifts and moves more int your hand. Now become aware of your feet. Feel your feet. Become conscious of your feet and lower legs. Feel the weight of your body over top of your feet. Feel how your feet meet the earth. Now your energies have moved to your feet. But these are things that are part of your body. Pick up an object in your hands. Look at it and examine it. Rub it or feel its texture. Now some of your energy has moved into that object. You can do the same thing with other objects that you aren't physically touching. I can look at the clock on the wall and in the process of looking at it, I am sending energy into it.
You can send energy into other people as well and get their feedback about it. I sometimes send energy to people all the way across the world. To do this, it is by far easiest if you have some connection with them though. I find either talking to them on the phone or the internet works best. In addition, having a recent photo of the person is useful in establishing the connection. Webcams work too. Just get a picture in your mind of the person and the energy will flow into them. In some senses, the space betwen you doesn't exist.
Try different exercises. Experiment in order to get a sense of what you can do with your energy.


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post Mar 24 2007, 03:36 AM
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Greetings,

QUOTE(Goibniu @ Mar 23 2007, 09:39 PM) *


Oh my, that is a large topic. I will be spending some time reading thorough it all. Thank you for brining it to my attention. Qigong is the only organized system of direct energy work I have encountered; the other systems seem more like a philosophy or "manipulation by proxy" to me, than set and defined lines. I do have a question, though. Is it required to go about energy work in that manner; can the principles of Qigong be extrapolated without lessening the systems effectiveness? I have tried messing with establish systems before and ended up with something less than the whole.

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Energy follows intent. Perhaps you are trying to 'mucle it' or trying too hard. Energy goes where you mentally move it. It is really a shifting of consciousness


Like I said, I have yet to read your topic, but you are suggesting that I need to always maintain a conscious effort to keep the energy that I absorb. Is there some way or sort battery, I could use? I already use a sigil with an object for this purpose, but I was wondering if this has a biological equivalent.

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You can send energy into other people as well and get their feedback about it… To do this, it is by far easiest if you have some connection with them though… Just get a picture in your mind of the person and the energy will flow into them.


This is what I am learning, - though be it mostly by trial and error- nice to have some third party conformation.

Thank you.


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post Mar 25 2007, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(fatherjhon @ Mar 24 2007, 05:36 AM) *
Greetings,
Oh my, that is a large topic. I will be spending some time reading thorough it all. Thank you for brining it to my attention. Qigong is the only organized system of direct energy work I have encountered; the other systems seem more like a philosophy or "manipulation by proxy" to me, than set and defined lines. I do have a question, though. Is it required to go about energy work in that manner; can the principles of Qigong be extrapolated without lessening the systems effectiveness? I have tried messing with establish systems before and ended up with something less than the whole.
Like I said, I have yet to read your topic, but you are suggesting that I need to always maintain a conscious effort to keep the energy that I absorb. Is there some way or sort battery, I could use? I already use a sigil with an object for this purpose, but I was wondering if this has a biological equivalent.
This is what I am learning, - though be it mostly by trial and error- nice to have some third party conformation.

Thank you.


The teaching thread that I wrote awhile back was mostly about the principles and how to apply them. I had never seen most of them written down clearly so it seemed worth doing. There were also some applications, but naturally if you understand the principles, you can extrapolate from them. We do it all the time.

When we send energy into a human being, we are sending into a system which has can hold a certain amount. Look at it as a container. If the container was half empty, we can fill it up to the brim and it will stay unless used up. If we send more than it can contain, it overflows and dribbles out. Or if you want an electrical anology, we are batteries. Sometimes the batteries are run down, sometimes fully charged. We can recharge them through exercises like Qigong. But unlike mechanical devices such as batteries, we have the ability to grow and add more capacity and more power through exercises. So, no you don't have to make a conscious continuous effort to contain the energy that you absorb -- up to a point. You may be able to contain an 'overcharge' or excess charge momentarily but it will flow out soon. It can also cause damage like a power surge might blow out a television set or something.
It is mostly the same with inanimate objects or egregores except that they aren't likely to be hurt. And yes there are certain techniques or sigils that can help contain charges that are larger than the normal capacity of the object to be able to store. There is an example here on this site for instance. http://home.comcast.net/~uberrod/runicreiki01.html Look at the sealing rune/sigil.


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