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Zenick
post Feb 28 2007, 10:55 PM
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Ok i've seen it asked many times but have yet to see a answer to the question.

What is the practical diffrence between the greater/supreme and lesser rituals? eg.lbrp and gbrp
I know the greaters uses the spirit pent/hex.This is not really what i'm looking for.
they have diffrent uses what are these uses?

From my own studies its looking like the lessers are use to invoke/banish a single element or planetary force were
the greater ones are for invoking/banishing more then one element or planetary force at a time.

Am I looking at this right?

I'm sure there's more to it but i really don't need a indepth study of it just something to get a idea on the system of magic.

thanks in advance just having these fourms to read has answered alot of questions i've had.

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post Mar 14 2007, 03:44 AM
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I'm by far no expert but as i see it the lesser ones are used to invoke for example air of air in all quarters, whereas the greater ones invoke each element of air in each quarter if you follow? (If we use elements as an example)

So in LIRP you would invoke air in east south west and north, but in GIRP you would invoke air in only one quarter, and earth in another and so on and so forth, the point being you invoke air of air, and air of earth and so on and so forth...

I don't know how informative this was or even if it's similar to your question, but hey, here goes nothing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif)


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post Mar 25 2007, 03:24 PM
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The LBRP/LIRP is for general banishing/invoking of a particular element (usually earth) in all 4 quarters.

The SIRP invokes each individual element assigned to its respective quarter as well as the equlliberating active or passive spirit it corresponds to, thus by the end of the ritual the 5th element of spirit is invoked as well as the 4 elements.

The GIRH invokes one particular element in all 4 quaters as well as its respective active or passive spirit force.

The LIRH/LBRH invokes or banishes a planetary force as it acts through the elements in their placement in the cardinal points of the zodiac(thus fire=east, earth=south, air=west, water=north). Incidently its interesting to note that the 6 forms of each lesser hexagram can be used to invoke its respective senior upon each of the 4 elemental enochian tablets, and all 6 forms to invoke the respective king.

The SIRH invokes a particular planetary force in all 4 quarters.

The GIRH invokes a planetary force in a single direction, usually the direction the planet is in in the zodiac at the time of the working, or over an object for charging, or both.

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Zenick   Lesser/greater Rituals   Feb 28 2007, 10:55 PM
Zenick   Well thanks for the info.it was awhile ago when i ...   Mar 14 2007, 03:53 PM
Nero   The Lesser ritual of the pentagram is a general ba...   Mar 16 2007, 01:34 PM
Zenick   Thanks Nero. I didn't know there was a diffr...   Mar 16 2007, 05:46 PM
palindroem   You would use the pentagram specific to that eleme...   Mar 17 2007, 02:53 AM
Nero   The LBRP is the LBRP, it has no elemental qualitie...   Mar 17 2007, 10:43 AM
Mchawi   The LBRP is the LBRP, it has no elemental qualitie...   Mar 17 2007, 10:53 AM
Nero   This thread might clear some things up: HERE   Mar 17 2007, 11:52 AM
palindroem   Hmmm . . . I use it in an elemental banishing/invo...   Mar 17 2007, 05:50 PM
Mchawi   Ok ok, lets slow down here people... The LBRP ha...   Mar 19 2007, 12:09 PM
Mchawi   Of course the angels don't fit in that order, ...   Mar 21 2007, 10:06 AM
Zenick   Thanks again Nero you have really cleared up a lot...   Mar 17 2007, 06:03 PM
Zenick   OK don't know if this will help but this is ho...   Mar 19 2007, 03:40 PM
Nero   OK don't know if this will help but this is ho...   Mar 21 2007, 10:24 AM
Zenick   Thanks for the input Marsyas. :angry!: Yet a...   Mar 25 2007, 04:01 PM
marsyas555   Thanks for the input Marsyas. :angry!: Yet a...   Mar 25 2007, 05:11 PM

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