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Matthias
post Mar 8 2007, 06:29 PM
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I read an account in a book about a boy who astrally projected, in an outdoor scene. He stayed in for about 6 real hours, and when he had regained conciousness he had found out that his physical body had done things while he was gone! But even after that he was in a lot of pain, and heard a voice in his head warning him that AP can lead to physical breakdown.

Anyone heard an account similar to this?

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post Apr 2 2007, 04:01 PM
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So projecting more than once at the same time is normal? ER...I'll probably have lots more questions.

Yes because you are only semi-concsious and your emotions with each try to dictate what you do on the astral plains. Think of what Ed said about spirits.
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You can also create spirits which will be like servants or protectors for you. These spirits are really just extensions of yourself. Because nothing can not exist in the mind which does not exist in reality your astral world in some universe becomes a real one.

Thse split copies of yourself are creations of your emotional state of mind. Rather than create spirits you create images of yourself. It might be better to say that you are not astral projecting more than once, but instead are randomly creating different versions of you. Again over time as you learn more you'll be able to do more and control more of what goes while you AP.
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ive never once been able to do it purposefully. I dont say "tonight im gonna AP!" It just happens. How can i find out what im doing to leave my body?

Deffinately create a journal and record things like what you were doing prior to the experience plus, date and time. Then write down what you experienced; what you tought, felt, saw, touched, smelled, tasted and heard while you were out of your body. If you're not sure you did or didn't sense something then write down "I was unable to tell if I heard something" or something to that extent. Finally write down what you're thinking and feeling after each experience is over.

Keep an eye out for patterns. Maybe there is a certain time table that is typically when you have these OBEs. Maybe its certain days. Certain things you do during the day may induce it. Especially monitor the amount of stress you're feeling. Keep in mind stress is actually both positive and negative and too much of either can induce OBEs. Positive stress is things going on in your life that make you feel good or add to you general feeling of well being. Negative stress is stuff that makes you upset or hurts your over all well being. It is crittical that you do not associate positive with good or negative with bad - they are both good in moderation and both bad if they are not balanced, balance is the key. Too much or too little of either is not good. And having to much or little of either can induce OBEs.

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Positive stress - getting complimented, eating food, feeling loved, doing something constructive, feeling happy or at least content.

Negative stress - conflict, self exertion (mental and physical, school work, labor, sex, excersice), sadness, anger, guilt, fear.

Positive stress adds to your being while negative takes away. Again a balance between the two is essential for health.
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It seems like what i have is working for me...ive heard varying the techniques can drain one's energy, yes?

No not in my opinion at least. What drains the body of energy is negative stress. Which is actually a good thing in moderation. Negative stress like, hard labor or a good work out, can actually promote good circulation of your energy. Changing your technique will only change the method unless it requires you to something extra that exerts more, physically or mentally. Realize that your body is an energy machine. You are constantly generating energy and you are constaintly using it up to.
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The good thing is everytime i leave im fully aware and i make my own decisions, and im a VERY VERY fast learner.

That is good it means tht exerting self control over your astral experience should be easy.
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Another thing...i definately know more than i think.

Maybe you're more of a natural adept than you realize.
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i have a concern...there is always a door that my higher self tells me not to open...because there is something melevolent behind it.

Whatever is behind that door is probably why you have random OBEs in the first place. Its actually your higher self trying to get you to face it - your lower self wants you to avoid it. Just beware that what ever is behind that door it probably going to be something big with the potential to either hurt or help you depending on how you handle it. Good and bad, beneficent vs malevolent are just perceptions, a matter of opinion. If you open the door with the attitude that what ever is behind there will hurt you then you are opening yourself to get hurt. If you go in with the attitude that whats behind the door is something you can handle you reduce the odds of being hurt. If it is some super-natural entity the only way it can hurt you is if you let it. The power of the mind is a staggering and fickle thing. Do not fall for the power of suggestion. If something is menacing you on the astral plains execpt it as frightening or menacing and let it go it cannot hurt you unless you believe it can.
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How can i banish the door? when im out of my body its there, as if someone who wishes me harm is trying to tempt my natural curiosity and get me to open it. Did i construct it? what should i do? Will the image remain there or become more prevalent with time? Should i ignore it?

If you have the will power and control you say you do while you AP then nothing in the astral plains can prevent you from opening that door except yourself. If you cannot open the door then that means some part of you is not ready to see or accept whats behind it. And what ever it is may down right be unplesant. There is no sense in trying to tell you otherwise. But it can only hurt you if you let it.

Don't ignore it either. An unopenable door can mean that your psyche built a barrier around something upsetting that if left alone will only fester and get worse or cause you more problems later on. It usually means that you have something to deal with that never properly got dealt with. It could be as simple as sibling rivalry, or dis-approval from a parent. It could be devistating such as abuse or rape - just as some examples. More likely its somewhere inbetween these extremes. Possibilities would include confussed sexuallity or repressed sexual tendencies. It could be a conflict within your spiritual self. It might even just be the fear of growing up and not knowing what to do next.

Time is what you need. Time matures the soul and a more mature soul can over come those obstecals and barriers
a younger soul can't. I'd try to open the door and if you can't then that might mean you are not ready and all you need is time. Don't rush it and do not stress or obssess over it. You're still very young and have all the time in the world, well some 70 years or so anyways.
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Acid: i would love if you shared with me your technique. you sound like you know what you're talking about, and i value your wisdom.

In order to use scouting you need to be able to meditate for at least 20 minutes and visualize vividly. If you can already successfully do these then I will go ahead and send you my technique.


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