Venger Satanis. Cult Of Cthulhu., Idiotic epistemology, acceptable strength magic, brilliant business Options

Venger Satanis. Cult of Cthulhu.
Idiotic epistemology, acceptable strength magic, brilliant business!

If you belong to those who have read the works of the sleeping prophet and found yourself invoking and evoking beyngs from beyond as an inevitable result you will probably find the words “Cult of cthulhu” slightly incongruent with words like “official pendant”, “50 buck fee” or (laugh in horror ye fans of elder lore) “Organisation”!

There is something very wrong with this. I cannot quite figure out what it is. Hm, let me think: “culth of cthulhu”, “oganisation”, “culth of cthulhu”, “oganisation”, “culth of cthulhu”, “oganisation”, “culth of cthulhu”, “oganisation” hmm, what is the problem with this, Why does it strike me as incongruent?

Anyway let us congratulate Venger Satanis on a brilliant exploitation of the ever growing number of wannabe cultists out there.

For us however this is bad news. We who are real cultists have a reputation to maintain. We are generally considered to be just slightly insane (or very insane as the case may be) and weird, and dark and evil and wicked and apt to believe nonsensical things.You know the usual perceptions as applied by hairless monkeys towards thos of us who see beyond the ordinary superfical surface of common sense reality.

Now, instead, we run the risk of being confused with the followers of Vengis. I AM ENRAGED!!!

It is not so much that Vengis is wrong. I have no problem with loads of other cultists who are wrong about basic facts about the mythos. What I have a problem with is that Vengis sets himself up as the Pope of the Catholic Church, having occupied the domain name: cult of cthulhu.net wich propagates a mish mash of the fourth way, howard philip lovecraft and anton la vey as it¨s orthodoxy.

Now, the greatest and silliest theological mistake Venger makes is the claim that Cthulhu and Satan (and Loke and Seth and Set and Kali and all other evil gods) are really one beneath the surface. This is naturally obviously only the idea of someone who missed out on the fact that his thinking made it so. Similar to a christian who percieves the world thorugh his bible and thinks that Seth ... must be something satanic – it even begins with an “S” and contains a “T”. Well, viewd through such an askew¨d view even Cthulhu becomes Satanic.

This is obviously nonsensical. As anyone who is competent with these matters knows the exact thing which makes Cthulhu & Co. Interesting is that they are transplutonic entities – i.e. that they are from OUTSIDE earlier systems of human classification.

(There may well have been early referenses in the bible by the way about Cthulhu, which were edited out. Possibly one of the sources for our genesis story did contain a propaganda myth about JHVH fighting a celapholoid monster, described as a judean distortion of CTHLVH, and winning ... yeah, right, so when the priest of our gods take a nap it is imagined to be this great victory by the volcanogods worshippers! There are still some remnants of this edited out story in Jobs book if you are curious.)

Anyways: it is pretty obvious to most intelligent people that the notion of a Satanic Cult of Cthulhu is a cntradiction in terms almost as bad as having the organisation Cult of Cthulhu.

Now then, is there anything of value here?

Yes. I have to say there is. There is actually some magic in this book. It is certainly not the strongest magic – but it is real, and if you are experienced it seems pretty harmless.

If you are a cultist, should you buy this book? No.

/Nox

This post has been edited by nox: Apr 18 2007, 03:31 PM

and what does the second monk say to that?

VS

p.s. thanks for taking a chance and ordering my book in any case.

and what does the second monk say to that?

Howdy Venger

the second monk replied ( I thought you knew this )

:

I agree. We shall walk our separate ways you walk your way and I walk gods.

p.s. thanks for taking a chance and ordering my book in any case.

Since I live part time inside the mythos I tend to check out every occult nec and similar stuff I can get my hands on.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) I think that after you posted mr Fords review I can also be more explicit about exactly what it is I object to in your work. I find that it dilutes the value of the cultists work to approach it from a satanic perspective.

Not that I have anything against satanism mind you. I think it is a wholesome pursuit in a christian society. It is just that it adds nothing and in fact filters out some of the value of working inside the mythos ... why would you want to wear red tinted glasses when you move into the greenish blue environment?

My recommendation is rather to approach the mythos and the GOO on their own terms. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)

Well, that is my pov. If you have any arguments in favor of approaching one system while standing firmly planted in another I am quite interested. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sport_boxing.gif)

So, anyway, since you are now a part of this thread and I am a bit critical of your work I would also like to repeat the positive part of my review: Your book does contain real magic. Not all books have that. So: Kudos for that.

All the best
Nox