Casual... Predecessors Options

Hello all, have you ever wandered who were the predecessors of the so-called Goetic spirits? This is due to the fact that this universe is but simply a single existence in the flow of existence, surely there would be entities that functioned in a similar role as the Goetic spirits and were their ancestors or something. Probably sound unheard of right, since few here seem to speak casually with entities, putting much seriousness into communication. Seriousness is good for many situations, though to be casual is to be at ease with those one is acquainted with.

Now, from the beginning I've started, I've never ever used any protective circles or techniques, nothing of that whatsoever in fact and somehow I still foundd the entities I want and had no harm.

I know quite a few of the Goetic entities, but I've never really "seen" them as my senses are rather how you say... dull... I can't feel much either only that I kind of "know" that something has "connected" from time to time, otherwise I wouldn't even notice and its up to those that have chose to work with me to keep me informed. Part of it may be due to having an almost null level of perception as I don't expect to see anything that conforms to human perception (absolutely none), its one of the factors for not having any kind of bias at all besides knowing that these are advanced entities of energy.

Its always better to get to the sources without pre-conceptions since they can read all your outer and inner musings in a fraction of an instant and react appropriately, some likely even know I'm writing this now. Its a little thanks to this that a small tiny bit of info was given about their so-called predecessors. A good number of them are still around in this universe... while some have chosen to go out of this existence to await the next...

Manifesting spirits without any tools is the same as manifesting spirits with tools, you just do it without them is all. See what I mean? The application, or rather, the experience of the application, such as a formal ritual summoning with a big circle, triangle, wand, braziers, yadda yadda, resulting in a physical manifestation of some kind

I dont think this is true. I think you need the basics and that would be anough and then you can have as many other ritual items as you see fit.
First thing I ever made was my triangle. couldnt do anything without it
A couple of candles and do all the LBRP and LBRH
and draw down the sigil on a piece of parchment and thats it

you can try and you may get something or maybe not but if you go through thr process with the spirit and ask what you want
well you might just get it. I dont really go for the full physical manifestation. with the circle and the robe and wand and so on.