Q&a: Lbrp And The Pentagram Rituals, What do you want to know about the pentagram rituals? Options

The LRP, the GRP, and the SPR seem to come up over and over again. I consider these foundational rituals and even those who do not use them at least started this path with the study of them. Yet there seems every month another question about them and from the questions there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding out there.

It has been suggested to me that I should write up a class at least on the lesser pentagram ritual but I am unable to do so for various reasons. Mainly much of the nitty gritty elements and inner energy work with the vibrations and all I learned through membership in my order and due to my oath I cannot discuss them. So in essence if I did in fact write a class it would be pretty much what is already written and diluted enough that there would be no point.

But it occurs to me that I might be able to answer specific questions that anyone might have. Obviously I will answer them as best as I can and if it encroaches upon my oath I will just dance around it or just not answer the question. It is a pain but it is the best I can do.

So if anyone has anything they have always wanted to know about any of the pentagram rituals then go ahead and ask.

Greetings Nero,

Thanks for the this post, for i still have tons of Q's about the rituals and as i study further, one answer seem to give birth to 3 or more Q's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif).

Starting with LBRP -

1. What does the 'sign of the Enterer' and the 'Sign of Silence' mean?
2. What is the meaning of 'Sign of Osiris slain'?
3. What do the colors of the Pentagrams, Circle & Hexagram signify?

Thanks again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)

This post has been edited by Seth'sCall: May 13 2007, 12:46 AM

1. What does the 'sign of the Enterer' and the 'Sign of Silence' mean?

The sign of the enterer otherwise called the projection sign is the sign of Horus the elder. It does as the name suggests and projects the energy of the vibrated divine name toward that quarter and pentagram. The sign is a forceful sign of Horus, reference Geburah and the 27th path of Peh which are associated with mars and Horus.

The sign of silence is the sign of Hoor-par-kraat, or Horus the younger. The babe in the blue egg of silence. It is a protection sign. It stops and protects you from the energy you just projected with the sign of the enterer from rebounding back at yourself.

2. What is the meaning of 'Sign of Osiris slain'?

You are forming a cross, sacrifice in order to be reborn and transformation as Osiris was. Also a reference to tiphareth.

3. What do the colors of the Pentagrams, Circle & Hexagram signify?

The pentagrams are seen as blue or white. There is no real significance here as that is just how they appear when viewed on the astral plane. The hexagram is gold as it is the sign of the macrocosm when combined with the pentagrams then you have 5=6 or the great work.

Is it viable to have a closing seal in each pent in the lbrp? If so what sign and prehaps god name should/could be used ?

The sign of silence is the sign that seals the energy flow you just began with the sign of the enterer. The rite as a whole is sealed with the qabalaic cross.

The sign of silence is the sign that seals the energy flow you just began with the sign of the enterer. The rite as a whole is sealed with the qabalaic cross.

I don't use the sign of the enterer, in some texts its advised to ''stab'' the pent to charge it. Personally I amass the elemental energy, bringing it up from my energy points, collecting it from my aura into a ball before throwing it into the pent/hex projecting the vibration after it whilst ''stabbing'' its center. Only use the sign of silence at the very end of all the rituals.

As it is an earth banishing ritual I guess it'd make sence to use the sign for taurus. Haven't been able to try it out yet, do get the feeling that it may be too vacumous.

Hope to have some questions regarding the invoking rituals soon. Can't think of any other questions for now.

Thanks

This post has been edited by Mchawi: May 14 2007, 08:54 AM

I don't use the sign of the enterer, in some texts its advised to ''stab'' the pent to charge it. Personally I amass the elemental energy, bringing it up from my energy points, collecting it from my aura into a ball before throwing it into the pent/hex projecting the vibration after it whilst ''stabbing'' its center. Only use the sign of silence at the very end of all the rituals.

As it is an earth banishing ritual I guess it'd make sence to use the sign for taurus. Haven't been able to try it out yet, do get the feeling that it may be too vacumous.

Hope to have some questions regarding the invoking rituals soon. Can't think of any other questions for now.

Thanks

I am not sure what you mean. The LBRP and the LIRP has no elemental correspondences. In it's performance you should use the two signs, always together, as they help with the energy. The greater and supreme version does have elemental correspondences and the pentagram of earth does use the sign of Taurus. So if you wanted to just banish earth then use the Greater Ritual of the Pentagram and use the earth pentagram in each quarter with the sign.

I am not sure what you mean. The LBRP and the LIRP has no elemental correspondences.

You confused me with this last time, ok the LBRP dosen't have elemental correspondances but thats only because one is banishing the elements at each quater leaving space behind for the fith element, spirit. If its a banishing ritual what are you banishing at each quater exactly if not the base elements for all things?

As such it then makes sence to seal each pent with a sign of some sort as the sign of silence seals and ends the entire ritual and the LBRP is only the start of the prescribed daily rituals.

Not there enough to talk on the Lesser Invoking Ritual but again, what are you invoking if not an element or aspect of said element?

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This post has been edited by Mchawi: May 14 2007, 09:30 AM

You confused me with this last time, ok the LBRP dosen't have elemental correspondances but thats only because one is banishing the elements at each quater leaving space behind for the fith element, spirit. If its a banishing ritual what are you banishing at each quater exactly if not the base elements for all things?

No not exactly. This has caused more confusion than anything I can think of.

Ok, the pentagram you draw is drawn the same way as the earth pentagram but it is not the same. Technically it is the pentagram of assiah.

Generally the pentagram used in the LIRP is called just the "lesser Invoking" pentagram and in the LBRP it is the lesser banishing pentagram. The best way to think of it is when invoking, you are drawing spirit down into matter and conversely when banishing drawing spirit out of matter. Do not mean elemental spirit, but rather just a general term like LVX.

Does that help?