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post Aug 12 2005, 05:16 PM
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Does the paradigm revealed through the Necronomicon offer one a "path" for a practitioner to walk that is akin to pursuring The Great Work?

If so:

What is it?
What is happens to a practitioner while engaging it?
What is the results from a practitioner completing it?


I ask that question (and the collaries) because I suspect that more exists with regard to dealing with the various Powers referenced in that book - beyond merely calling up Elder Gods and other sundry entities for the sake of satisfying mundane desires.

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post May 16 2007, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(Ravlor @ May 16 2007, 06:22 PM) *
I am really new to NEC and I want to get going now. I have never felt any strange feelings during a ritual, I have never felt NEC calling for me... Can I still become a powerfull magician? For it is that I want to be.


You have the desire / will and you are performing ritual. Now all you need is a little faith and the formulae will be complete. Will + Faith + Ritual = results.

What is magick anyways? You can view it from more than one angle. You can view it as self psychology. And the psychological aspect of magick is very important. After all its your mind which determines your reality. Doing ritual can give us the faith to conqour obstacles in life that perhaps otherwise we could not. It helps you raise your aim and shoot a little higher than you thought was possible before.

If your goal is something such as wealth then there are much easier ways to attain it than through magick. To accumulate a consciousness capable of effecting your surroundings you need to study magick for years. It takes a lot of effort. Law school for example would be a much better approach to get rich.

If you want to broaden your mind and get a grip on the world around you magick is an excellent approach. It will not happen overnight. Although I have seen several people get immediate results. So its possible just not likely.

With me I had to spent seven years doing ritual and not really seeing any results. However I enjoyed the ritual and thought the concept of magick was pretty cool. At the time I had half a mind to think it was just a bunch of B_ll Sh_t. I wondered if it was just me not getting it or if it was all a bunch of bullboshka. When I turned 20 things started to click and all of a sudden miraculous stuff began to happen in my life. I wondered if it was just coincidence or if it was finally starting to work. I am the type of person that has a hard time believing anything that is not documented beyond all shadow of a doubt.

However there are only so many times you can write events off as coincidence. Because of this I began to believe. As my faith grew my results only got better and better. It may be that it took me so long to get results because I started very young and had an immature mind.

In my eyes the real goal of magick is control of the consciousness. The magician must get a grip on his life. Unless one controls their worldly affairs they are not much of a magician at all. For me number one this means financial security. What the hell is the purpose of magick if you do not have a roof over your head and food in your belly. After gaining control of the mind things like making money become much easier. Optimists rule the world while pessimists let the world pass them by. The psychology of magick has helped me believe in myself and get a good grip on my life. To me that is real magick.

Having a strong will and strong faith is much more important than the actual ritual. The ritual is actually the least important part of the equation. It could be as simple as crushing a leaf. Or as complex as the system of Abra-Melin.

The Gate system of Necronomicon is all about transforming the mind into a higher state.

Can you become a powerful magician? If you are willing to to invest the time and be patient one day all the pieces will just fall together. How strong is your determination?
Go for it dude.

Good luck!

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