Need Some Advice On My Evocations - Mepsitahl, mepsitahl Options

well Ive done another evocation tonight of Mepsitahl. and I did the full LBRP and hexegram and I used the goetia evocation. the full lot. and the most I get is a brief flash of her from a recollection I had of another time I did it and was messing around and got full view of her., beyond the mirror just after the evocation when the energy is strong after that i see no sign of her. and then I hear laughing? what gives ? ( and this happens everytime I do an evocation regardless of spirit) and then I hear like voices like someone having a conversation in the background but I cant make any sense of it. (I could be trying to hard to hear something and I do that to help manifest a voice. and then just random stuff happens in my mirror like normal scrying and there is no communication. I dont know if that is anough to say the welcome and I cant even check the identity. Is it because she is a fictional spirit? Im pretty new. only a couple years so does anyone have any advice I can try for next time? any help would be much apprecated. thank you

I did another evocation tonight. this time I actually got abit better results. still not what I wanted but getting there. it seems that befor the ritual had even began I can sense she was with me. I did the ritual LBRP quickly amd that was it. wasent in the mood for more.

and I stared at the sigil said the evocation but i couldnt finish it because I have forgotten(its been a whille) so I made up one and chucked in some god names for good measure and when I was scrying I actually started to have better visions and did see what resembles the spirits apperence. if this is my imagination or an actually manifestation i am not sure.
I could here faintly some words like Yes I am here, (I was repeatedly asking are you there in my head) actually at first it sounded like a male voice. audio scrying is a whole new thing for me.
I tried to do it with my eyes closed but it didnt work. i wasnt visualizing spontaniosly like I do when I scry. my triangle , I feel has so much power and I dont know how I could do an evocation without it. the mixture of smoke and candles and triangle really put me into a trance and I was just sitting there stairing.

I do feel like there was a presence. I think My astral hearing needs some work. but still not getting into a conversation. although I sense she is very wise and has a high rank spiritualy I only wish I could have talked with her.

now IM starting to believe. I think from now it will only get stronger. plus all the other experience with this entity. kind of built my feel for her. and next time I will take a book with me jsut incase. dont want to get my hopes up to much.

the last thing to prove to myself that evocation is real is a meaningfull conversation
what you were saying before Zugzwang. I dont think its really how much you say and how well you recite the evocation as much as how much of a trance you are in at the time. I guess I see things more from a seer point of view.
wow 2 or 3 hours with about 5 evocations. that really ful on Zugzwang. I think I will do the 1 hour for everyday for a few weeks meathod
thank you everyone for your advice please give me some advice on a way to hear better and train my astral hearing if you have any exersises
. sorry about the long as post.
I will keep you all updated

This post has been edited by M1rrOR/TRiX: May 22 2007, 09:29 AM