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post Jun 2 2007, 11:46 AM
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a blog that ive been reading said that those who claims to be a witch but just read witchcraft books are fake.. he said that real witches are witches who has spirit mentors etc. and people who just learn witchcraft through books etc are nothing but fake witches. what do you think of this accusation?

by the way, this is the blog

http://filipinosorcery.blogspot.com/

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post Jun 3 2007, 04:54 PM
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Okay...the pee comment made me read the blog.

What he is talking about is another very common item that one will find mentioned again and again if one actually reads something pertaining to the historical practice of witchcraft!!

I apologise if my italicising seems over the top, but I can't believe you guys don't know about this! It was certainly widespread in the UK for hundreds of years, and particularly during the C17th when several writers on astrology published books in which it was recommended!

I should also point out that many of these accounts and documents that I refer to somewhat vaguely exist in the form of folklore studies, which should absolutely not be dismissed out of hand. Yes, some of it is just plain superstition, some of it was made up by "scholars" during the C19th, but some of it is exactly what it says, i.e. the "Lore" that was utilised by the common man. You didn't do it because you thought it was "magical" (you were probably a good Christian who would have no truck with such things), you did it because it works! Heck...Hoodoo is made up entirely of bits of folklore from different places all mashed together, and is still evolving as folklore today!

I am reminded of a story my friend often tells about when he was living in Norway and had a friend who was a fisherman. In Norway there is a sea spirit called The Droge, which is a kind of dead-fisherman-archetype-thingy and is responsible for seeing that doomed vessels become doomed. Now, this fisherman got a new boat one day, and my friend went down to the dock to find him branding a design into the keel. When he was asked what he was doing he replied along the lines of, "This symbol wards off The Droge and will protect the ship and it's crew." Now this guy was a modern man who believed in neither magic nor spirits, but he knew from history and from his own experience that if you were fishing those waters you needed to make sure you had the right "protection". He didn't think what he was doing was "magic"...it was just what you did if you had any common sense!

Heck...if you want a sense of historical continuity to your witchery then forget the gibberish that is peddled by a lot of neo-pagan writers. Get yerself some folklore books and mine them for information!

Edit: syntax.

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ThirdDimension   Fake Witches?   Jun 2 2007, 11:46 AM
Rick   I agree with the fact that reading books isn't...   Jun 2 2007, 03:09 PM
The White Chaos   Okay I kinda get where he is coming from with the ...   Jun 2 2007, 06:36 PM
Edunpanna   I read the guys blog. I am skeptical of anyone wh...   Jun 2 2007, 07:15 PM
The White Chaos   I read the guys blog. I am skeptical of anyone wh...   Jun 2 2007, 07:45 PM
ThirdDimension   Lol, I know right. But I did find his little pee ...   Jun 3 2007, 09:02 AM
J*S   I am no expert, but I think if you look through th...   Jun 3 2007, 02:55 AM
The White Chaos   As a magician you will grow and find your own way,...   Jun 3 2007, 08:45 PM
J*S   As a magician you will grow and find your own way,...   Jun 4 2007, 01:33 AM
The White Chaos   They want old things, and the older the better. S...   Jun 4 2007, 06:37 PM
53rdspirit   Seems to me that boiling my own urine with rusty n...   Jun 4 2007, 10:50 AM
ThirdDimension   Seems to me that boiling my own urine with rusty n...   Jun 5 2007, 09:55 AM
53rdspirit   so was he tryin to make us curse ourselves? I do ...   Jun 5 2007, 12:52 PM
J*S   The theory behind the spell is that the magical li...   Jun 4 2007, 03:36 PM
53rdspirit   I would not include my own body fluids in a spell ...   Jun 4 2007, 03:54 PM
J*S   That's all fair comment TWC. I guess I reac...   Jun 5 2007, 08:51 AM
Edunpanna   That's all fair comment TWC. I guess I reac...   Jun 10 2007, 12:57 PM
J*S   As far as the pee goes here is an old Hoodoo trick...   Jun 11 2007, 12:44 AM
Edunpanna   That is cool! I am finding Hoodoo fascinating...   Jun 12 2007, 09:35 PM
53rdspirit   What do you think the significance of the urine is...   Jun 13 2007, 09:05 AM
Kranos   Why urine..... um. Because it is easier to come by...   Jun 22 2007, 02:19 PM
The White Chaos   I know right, lol I'm not trying to call anyon...   Jun 5 2007, 09:12 AM
Acid09   I would like to know where this "witch" ...   Jun 5 2007, 05:26 PM
J*S   1) "...if you suspect you are being bewitched...   Jun 6 2007, 02:17 AM
53rdspirit   Gah! Have you not read anything I have posted...   Jun 6 2007, 08:47 AM
Acid09   I took an introductory logic class once and we d...   Jun 7 2007, 06:35 PM
J*S   Okay, points taken from both of you, and some good...   Jun 8 2007, 12:24 AM
Acid09   I do think that having proper training is a far be...   Jun 8 2007, 06:34 PM
The White Chaos   I do think that having proper training is a far be...   Jun 10 2007, 04:46 AM
Acid09   Practice, experience, first hand knowledge. I mea...   Jun 10 2007, 10:55 AM
The White Chaos   I do find myself using Hoodoo and Santaria from ti...   Jun 11 2007, 08:24 AM
Acid09   You're just wierd... ok I'm teasing. I act...   Jun 12 2007, 06:30 PM
Acid09   If you're not afraid of a little pain getting...   Jun 22 2007, 02:59 PM
The White Chaos   If you're not afraid of a little pain getting ...   Jun 23 2007, 01:37 PM
Kranos   .... lol now I'm curious XD, what can you do w...   Jun 24 2007, 01:44 AM
Edunpanna   Well, you could make something similar to a Vodoun...   Jun 24 2007, 09:13 AM
Kranos   Vodoo is with blood. Hodoo is without. Hodoo wor...   Jun 24 2007, 01:41 PM
The White Chaos   Lol, yeah I've moved past being just an eclect...   Jul 2 2007, 05:40 PM

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