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Seraphina
post Jun 6 2007, 05:49 PM
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Hi,
i'm new here and i have wanted to post but it takes forever to be included in the system. at any rate - i have done some invocation/evocation (i'm new still haven't worked out the difference) and this was all done about a year - yr and a half ago. i called a variety of spirits from the goetia because my visualization skills are next to nothing (i was desperate for help at the time so didn't stop to consider these shortcomings in my work) but was surprisingly successful for one so new - maybe it was the smell of a newbie that drew such success at any rate i don't feel that i would want to continue with any workings with the goetia. i am disinclined to the use of the system because i feel that slavery whether it be a spirit or another human is wrong. At any rate, my goal at the time at the evocations was not to exert control but solicit aid. in my negotians however - i know that i was lacking - but by the same token i would not take the time to ask questions here if i did not feel that such questions were warranted. Forgive me if i seem to be rambling a bit - but you must understand the circumstances from which i am posting in order to be able to answer the questions that follow. i read on here that some of you more seasoned practitioners have not had any spirits manifest themselves through the smoke of the incense that you burned - i have. possibly for the simple reason that my visualization skills are lacking - but perhaps there are other reasons that i could only fathom to guess? any ideas as to why they would choose to show themselves to an inherent newbie such as myself would be very interesting to know. the second thing is that one of the spirits that i called also manifested by voice... now he has since made his presence known - in fact more recently - but i am curious as to why he would choose to make his presence known after so long - and especially assuming that he was disinclined to give me a straight answer when i made my request. another thing that is very puzzling to me is that last night another spirit that i had called upon (but had forgotten about until last night) chose to make his presence known and now i'm not sure of his intent. have any of you encountered something similar to this? i'm sure that most of you weren't as new to this when you first started as i was - nor does it seem that you would undertake an endeaver which you don't fully understand. mine was simply an act of desperation in a private matter which has yet to be resolved - yet seems like it could swing one way or the other as far as those called upon to help me. tho i have been told that if it's been a while (like a yr) they're answer was more likely to be negative. Anyone with further information regarding this - or even willing to wage a guess would be most appreciated.
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Sera

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Seraphina
post Jun 8 2007, 06:06 PM
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forgive my writing style. i'm not stupid enough to think that i'm "special" in some manner shape or form. i just found the concept odd considering that i have read on here - that others more practiced have not had such things happen. i thought that either a) it could be due to a lack of visualization, b) it could be due to high energy, or a myriad of other equally valid reasons. i just wanted some input. if i wanted to hear that i was special in some way shape or form i would not have asked i would have simply stated and begun trumpeting. i am more puzzled than looking for an ego boost.


You wanted things broken down a bit more that's easy enough:

a) i want to know why spirits would manifest themselves in any kind of physical manifestation to a newbie (especially one who hasn't the foggiest as to what they're really doing)

b) i want to know if said manifestations are an indication that said spirit is more willing or inclined to do what is asked of them.

c) i want to know if after more than a yr if a spirit would decide to actually follow through or if after said passage of time they'd be more likely to have forgotten what was asked of them and have answered in the negative.

d) if it is common for a spirit to re-manifest when you haven't called it... and i think that's pretty much all i want to know at the moment.

i hope that no one else misjudges what i was asking for as an attempt to either brag or say that i am more than i am. not only am i a newbie (but plan to never become "experienced") but i'm also on unfamiliar ground when it comes to how spirits interact with those who call upon them or try to gain their attention.

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Seraphina   Questions   Jun 6 2007, 05:49 PM
Seraphina   the voice i heard was auditory - scared the daylig...   Jun 6 2007, 08:01 PM
communaut   I can only speak for myself here but your ideas an...   Jun 8 2007, 01:20 PM
communaut   Don't mean to be insulting, love. When you...   Jun 8 2007, 08:16 PM
Seraphina   Not a problem. i'm not generally egotistical -...   Jun 8 2007, 08:35 PM
communaut   Why ANYBODY would want to use the Lesser Key of So...   Jun 9 2007, 06:09 AM
Imperial Arts   The idea of a Supreme God governing angels, demons...   Jun 9 2007, 08:45 AM
Seraphina   thanks for the tips. it's along the same line...   Jun 9 2007, 08:28 AM
communaut   (Meet the zombies.) I don't consider the grim...   Jun 9 2007, 12:29 PM
Imperial Arts   (Meet the zombies.) I don't consider the grim...   Jun 9 2007, 08:36 PM
Seraphina   I can definitely appreciate your opinion - i think...   Jun 9 2007, 09:25 PM
Seraphina   This is exactly what my teacher says!!...   Jun 9 2007, 04:55 PM
communaut   This is exactly what my teacher says!!...   Jun 9 2007, 05:49 PM
communaut   I think that pretty well sums up your position and...   Jun 9 2007, 09:40 PM
Imperial Arts   -I think that pretty well sums up your position an...   Jun 10 2007, 12:02 PM
communaut   [color=#3333FF]Zombies? I would also like to hea...   Jun 10 2007, 02:06 PM
Imperial Arts   -Believing in something like Islam or Buddhism onl...   Jun 10 2007, 04:08 PM
altpath   [color=#3333FF]The idea that "belief makes ma...   Jun 10 2007, 02:38 PM
markus   Dear All, I'm new to the forum but have had t...   Aug 18 2007, 10:22 PM
Alexodeus   Dear All, I Or maybe is easier to ask: can I ask ...   Sep 17 2007, 09:42 AM

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