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Seraphina
post Jun 4 2007, 10:41 PM
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Hi,
i'm new here and i have wanted to post but it takes forever to be included in the system. at any rate - i have done some invocation/evocation (i'm new still haven't worked out the difference) and this was all done about a year - yr and a half ago. i called a variety of spirits from the goetia because my visualization skills are next to nothing (i was desperate for help at the time so didn't stop to consider these shortcomings in my work) but was surprisingly successful for one so new - maybe it was the smell of a newbie that drew such success at any rate i don't feel that i would want to continue with any workings with the goetia. i am disinclined to the use of the system because i feel that slavery whether it be a spirit or another human is wrong. At any rate, my goal at the time at the evocations was not to exert control but solicit aid. in my negotians however - i know that i was lacking - but by the same token i would not take the time to ask questions here if i did not feel that such questions were warranted. Forgive me if i seem to be rambling a bit - but you must understand the circumstances from which i am posting in order to be able to answer the questions that follow. i read on here that some of you more seasoned practitioners have not had any spirits manifest themselves through the smoke of the incense that you burned - i have. possibly for the simple reason that my visualization skills are lacking - but perhaps there are other reasons that i could only fathom to guess? any ideas as to why they would choose to show themselves to an inherent newbie such as myself would be very interesting to know. the second thing is that one of the spirits that i called also manifested by voice... now he has since made his presence known - in fact more recently - but i am curious as to why he would choose to make his presence known after so long - and especially assuming that he was disinclined to give me a straight answer when i made my request. another thing that is very puzzling to me is that last night another spirit that i had called upon (but had forgotten about until last night) chose to make his presence known and now i'm not sure of his intent. have any of you encountered something similar to this? i'm sure that most of you weren't as new to this when you first started as i was - nor does it seem that you would undertake an endeaver which you don't fully understand. mine was simply an act of desperation in a private matter which has yet to be resolved - yet seems like it could swing one way or the other as far as those called upon to help me. tho i have been told that if it's been a while (like a yr) they're answer was more likely to be negative. Anyone with further information regarding this - or even willing to wage a guess would be most appreciated.
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Sera

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post Jun 8 2007, 06:32 PM
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i evoked or attempted to evoke many spirits - mostly i called upon one at a time tho sometimes i'd call on multiple ones. i have not evoked in almost two yrs. When i saw them in the smoke - it was more than one. i don't remember all of the faces but i do remember a goose type image changing into more of a human type image.

Spirits i evoked:

Vassago, Paimon, Purson, Asmodae, Ronove, Astaroth, Beleth, Marchosias, Andromalius, Raum, Dantalion, and Seer. i evoked continuously over about a sixty day period. calling upon Asmodae most often with Marchosias, Andromalius, Raum pretty close as well. the others i called upon at different times.

my modus of operandi pretty much went something like this:

for the first month to month and a half i would create my circle (omitting much of the ritual since i had no clue how to do it) and mostly just reading the words out of a book and doing my best to concentrate on who i was attempting to call and why. After failing at that miserably and not knowing what else to do - i decided that having memorized the words by this time i would create my own "ritual" or way of calling them. this seemed to work much better. i'd lie down on my bed and basically meditate saying the words in my mind and then waiting to see if anything happened. 98% of the time nothing did - then there were a few occasions of objects moving, the faces i mentioned in the smoke, or the voice. More specifically i believe that the ones who answered were Asmodae and Marchosias for sure and my best guess would be Andromalius possibly... and i think Paimon also responded.

As far as any of them actually sticking around for my request - i'm not sure. i know that i was NOT ready for them to actually respond. i had it in my head that due to my "inadequacy" in the whole ritual that my actual success would be highly unlikely if not improbable. hopefully this gives a bit more insite and can help those who read this answer my questions.

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sera

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