Need Some Advice On My Evocations - Mepsitahl, mepsitahl Options

well Ive done another evocation tonight of Mepsitahl. and I did the full LBRP and hexegram and I used the goetia evocation. the full lot. and the most I get is a brief flash of her from a recollection I had of another time I did it and was messing around and got full view of her., beyond the mirror just after the evocation when the energy is strong after that i see no sign of her. and then I hear laughing? what gives ? ( and this happens everytime I do an evocation regardless of spirit) and then I hear like voices like someone having a conversation in the background but I cant make any sense of it. (I could be trying to hard to hear something and I do that to help manifest a voice. and then just random stuff happens in my mirror like normal scrying and there is no communication. I dont know if that is anough to say the welcome and I cant even check the identity. Is it because she is a fictional spirit? Im pretty new. only a couple years so does anyone have any advice I can try for next time? any help would be much apprecated. thank you

Im eating more vegitables in my diet. that has been good. I feel more energetic and lively.
I stopped the evocations a whille ago. the last one was when I just messing around and got out my mirror and sigil.

but I did see something strange. I could see a couple, male and female. embracing in a hug. they were gray and cloudy.
I actually did manage to move a psi wheel under a glass but I cant do it again and am to lazy.

anyway. Im finding it hard to do evokation. there is something not real for me. like im not satisfied without knowing something is real and not my imagination.

but overall.for me its heaps better to do it without a circle or any ceremonies at all. it dosent help unless im in the right state of mind.
and rituals take time and destracts you from focusing.

I have an important question. have you ever used the necronimicon. what if I used those sigils.

I have an important question. have you ever used the necronimicon. what if I used those sigils.

Who, me??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I only once used the nec spellbook once, and I didn't get any results. To be honest, most people here use it as a religious system, and although I would like to get into it (since it seems to have many ties to Roman Catholicism, and I was raised Catholic), I have not had time to do it. I'm very much aware of the fact that I, personally, am one of those types who needs to involve themselves 100% in a specific system to obtain massive results, so I admit that if I didn't get results, it's because I wasn't involving myself with the system totally.

The only thing I can say about that is that most people agree that the spirits from the spellbook are benevolent, and safe to call on without a circle, but the ones from the nec are more dangerous, so just think about that.

And like I said before, to get full effect from anything, you have to involve yourself 100%. So I would say you got good results with Mepsitahl, but to be honest, IMHO, a circle is the best way to get results. Not an astral circle, but a physical one. It helps the spirit see you and hear you. In a way it can be considered a form of protection, and to keep the influence away from your mind (even benevolent spirits try to get you to think the way they do), but for the most part I feel it's more of a way to open the veil between your physical and astral world.

Right now, I'm going through the motion of studying every aspect of the LBRP. I stopped performing that ritual a long time ago because of alot of bad things that happened to me that I feel were directly related to my daily practices of it, but now I feel it's essential that I understand every kabbalistic aspect of it, through and through, including the God-names. I'll be scrying the hebrew letters. I'm telling you all this because I think this is essential to get a successful result from anything you do, including evocation.

I hope this info helps (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)