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bumdhar
post May 30 2007, 05:58 PM
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I guess I came to Magick trying to find Gnosis, enlightenment, as well as daily peace and meaning. I have practiced and studied several spiritual paths, and found this one to be quite right for me. However, have been having doubts lately as to whether these goals can be attained through the Western Mystical Tradition. I am wondering if anyone practicing Thelema or Golden Dawn or any other Western Mystical path has attained anything akin to samadhi, or enlightenment, or if it's all just a sham.

I acknowledge that using these rituals and overall philosophy can induce brain change. I know my brain has changed since I started. Yet what is the end result? I read books by Crowley and Regardie, yet what was the result of their Work?

I just wanted to know what other people think. Does anybody else have any thoughts?

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post Jun 15 2007, 05:56 PM
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To know ourselves and the world, and to change ourselves so that we might change the world.

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post Jun 15 2007, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Frater Yechidah @ Jun 15 2007, 06:56 PM) *
To know ourselves and the world, and to change ourselves so that we might change the world.

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.


I like that. Yechidah. And I agree. When we change ourselves it's a first step towards changing the world. I think that's a Buddhist saying.

I posted this couple weeks back, and now I sort of regret doing so. I was in the dumps spiritually. Kind of questioning it All to an extreme. I'm a natural skeptic, so much so that at times I'm skeptical about being skeptical. It keeps me on my toes. I was a bit impulsive posting out of nowhere. Western Magick is eclectic. A huge buffet of practices, theories. There are certain "utensils" so to speak that are universal and necessary for example, the LBRP; but what you do with it, how you go about nourishing your spirit and mind with all the other goodies is all up to the individual practitioner.

I am at times overwhelmed by the shear volume of material out there. I am also dubious that the end results "promised" can be attained. One would think that a magician who attained "enlightenment" or conversation with the HGA, whatever one wishes to call it would be above material wants, yet look at Crowley (I'm reading his Magickal Diaries now) and how concerned he is with his own big fat ego. Gee, I say, I don't want to end up like that. Then I'll read the book of Thoth, which is pure genius.

Hypocrisy is rampant in all belief systems. Even in Thelema, even Magick. (Readers of this post who call themselves Themites excluded of course.)

I'm rambling....

Peace upon All. Love is the Law under Will.

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bumdhar   What Do You Think The Purpose Of Magick Is?   May 30 2007, 05:58 PM
Acid09   Brain changes. Opening the doors of Concsious perc...   May 30 2007, 06:02 PM
Darkmage   For me it's another tool in the box to help ma...   May 30 2007, 06:40 PM
bumdhar   I agree that any practice should be applicable to ...   May 31 2007, 05:52 AM
Xenomancer   It's no problem to reach the pinnacle, or enli...   Jun 16 2007, 07:23 AM
bumdhar   That's cool. What you were saying brought to...   Jun 16 2007, 09:11 AM
The Sorceress   I am wondering if anyone practicing Thelema or Gol...   Jul 2 2007, 01:19 PM
Frater V.V.L   To Know Yourself, and Understand.   Mar 1 2008, 08:05 AM
JDAndrews   To know ourselves and the world, and to change our...   Mar 4 2008, 08:54 AM
IAO131   I guess I came to Magick trying to find Gnosis, en...   May 19 2008, 11:05 PM
Bird of Hermes   The goal of magick in my mind is the accomplishmen...   May 25 2008, 10:29 PM
esoterica   "the whole purpose of magick is to help you r...   May 26 2008, 07:56 AM
Umbra Euri   Quoting Peter H. Gilmore "Techniques meant as...   May 28 2008, 07:49 PM
Matthew Kelly   Ah, I see IAO131 has made it here as well - glad t...   Jun 26 2008, 07:47 PM
Xenomancer   Magick is meant to be like a laxative when there i...   Aug 29 2008, 09:42 PM
Lucifer   To change The World :)   Sep 30 2008, 06:28 AM
bumdhar   Change your SELF and you change the World! :bl...   Oct 4 2008, 08:14 PM
Petrus   I just wanted to know what other people think. Do...   Oct 5 2008, 12:19 AM
realm_crawler   Well as i feel compelled to share my view on this....   Oct 12 2008, 11:18 AM

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