QUOTE(Nero @ Jun 15 2007, 09:28 AM)
No not an elemental king. The hierarchy of elemental earth breaks down like this:
Auriel is the archangel of elemental earth.
Shor is the Kerbium, sometimes labeled as president.
Phorlakh is the angel of elemental earth.
Kerub is the elemental ruler.
Ghob is the elemental king, rules over the gnomes.
Finally you have the lower earth spirits called gnomes.
Earth spirits regardless of rank are known for not being the most talkative of folks. Just keep working with him and communication will get easier in time. Also earth spirits are better at showing you things rather than telling you things. I wouldn't try and use the triangle with an angel. I did so with auriel and it just pissed him off and I gained nothing from it. Although you can with the lesser spirits or elementals, but I haven't found it necessary but that might just be me.
As for what Phorlakh can do for you: You called him, did you not have something in mind? Generally the elemental angel is good with teaching and using the elemental energies in a practical way. So in this case can teach you how to use earth for practical results, such as stability, endurance, money, gaining jobs, etc. Once you gain some communication with him, just ask him specificity.
Ave Nero,
Thanks for the breakdown and info, you're always most helpful. That was my first successful working with a earth spirit other than Ach-angels .
I did ask specifically for him to show me how to use earth spirits to bring success in financial, and other "worldly" pursuits, more specifically related to success in my music carreer, and dealing with the politics of how the world works(something i've never been good at) .
I also asked for him to teach me how to work with the gnomes and other forces of nature in my Magick rituals to bring positive changes in my life and in the lives of my family. Is this the kind of "show you things" you meant? Not like; show me where a chest of confederate gold is burried lol ! although I'm sure that's within his power lol ! (that sure would be nice though ha ha!).
Is Phorlakh the one to ask how to use crystals and gems for various purposes such as healing, divination & scrying?
I pretty much go by what my intuition tells me and I've never felt compelled to use a triangle, but up to this point I haven't worked with anything of a potentially nasty nature. I agree with what you said about using the triangle with Angel's. I remember on "another" site someone saying they used a triangle with Raphael!! I was thinking that wasn't a wise move, I sure would hate to have an Archangel pissed at me or any angel for that matter! Are the elementals neither good nor bad, maybe a mixture of both?
When you said "to make sure my dealings with Phorlakh are on my terms not his " are you saying that potentially his intentions may not be good?
Thanks so much for your help Nero, this is new ground for me and didn't have any one to learn from, except the angels themselves. When I do this again I will evoke phorlakh specifically. I'll repeat the rituals the same except at the point at the end where I asked Auriel and to send his subbordinants to minister to me in my sleep, I will instead at that point evoke Phorlakh and add his sigil to the mix. That will be new for me. maybe the sigil will help with communucation.
Thanks again, Love and Light
Lightning
This post has been edited by Lightning777: Jun 16 2007, 12:16 AM