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bumdhar
post May 30 2007, 05:58 PM
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I guess I came to Magick trying to find Gnosis, enlightenment, as well as daily peace and meaning. I have practiced and studied several spiritual paths, and found this one to be quite right for me. However, have been having doubts lately as to whether these goals can be attained through the Western Mystical Tradition. I am wondering if anyone practicing Thelema or Golden Dawn or any other Western Mystical path has attained anything akin to samadhi, or enlightenment, or if it's all just a sham.

I acknowledge that using these rituals and overall philosophy can induce brain change. I know my brain has changed since I started. Yet what is the end result? I read books by Crowley and Regardie, yet what was the result of their Work?

I just wanted to know what other people think. Does anybody else have any thoughts?

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post Jun 16 2007, 09:11 AM
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That's cool.

What you were saying brought to mind the idea of "The Three Eyes," some christian philosopher came up with. I don't know what his name was off hand, and am to lazy to research right now, but essentially he said that man has three ways of looking at the universe. With an eye of flesh (sensory, empirical), an eye of reason (logical, rational thought,) and the eye of the spirit (intuitive mystical intelligence.)

Ken Wilber said of these that they should idealy be working fine and have juristiction over their own realm. But when one intrudes upon the other he called it a "category error." For example a mystic shouldn't be an make pronouncements on geology using the eye of the spirit. The rationalist can say a lot about both realms, and can reach contrary conclusions , as E. Kant demonstrated. So like you said you get your inner rationalist to fussy about The Great Work, (s)he's going to have a few fits....especially working with Qabalah

Spock is usually my favorite character on Star Trek.

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bumdhar   What Do You Think The Purpose Of Magick Is?   May 30 2007, 05:58 PM
Acid09   Brain changes. Opening the doors of Concsious perc...   May 30 2007, 06:02 PM
Darkmage   For me it's another tool in the box to help ma...   May 30 2007, 06:40 PM
bumdhar   I agree that any practice should be applicable to ...   May 31 2007, 05:52 AM
Frater Yechidah   To know ourselves and the world, and to change our...   Jun 15 2007, 05:56 PM
bumdhar   To know ourselves and the world, and to change our...   Jun 15 2007, 06:21 PM
Xenomancer   It's no problem to reach the pinnacle, or enli...   Jun 16 2007, 07:23 AM
The Sorceress   I am wondering if anyone practicing Thelema or Gol...   Jul 2 2007, 01:19 PM
Frater V.V.L   To Know Yourself, and Understand.   Mar 1 2008, 08:05 AM
JDAndrews   To know ourselves and the world, and to change our...   Mar 4 2008, 08:54 AM
IAO131   I guess I came to Magick trying to find Gnosis, en...   May 19 2008, 11:05 PM
Bird of Hermes   The goal of magick in my mind is the accomplishmen...   May 25 2008, 10:29 PM
esoterica   "the whole purpose of magick is to help you r...   May 26 2008, 07:56 AM
Umbra Euri   Quoting Peter H. Gilmore "Techniques meant as...   May 28 2008, 07:49 PM
Matthew Kelly   Ah, I see IAO131 has made it here as well - glad t...   Jun 26 2008, 07:47 PM
Xenomancer   Magick is meant to be like a laxative when there i...   Aug 29 2008, 09:42 PM
Lucifer   To change The World :)   Sep 30 2008, 06:28 AM
bumdhar   Change your SELF and you change the World! :bl...   Oct 4 2008, 08:14 PM
Petrus   I just wanted to know what other people think. Do...   Oct 5 2008, 12:19 AM
realm_crawler   Well as i feel compelled to share my view on this....   Oct 12 2008, 11:18 AM

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