Ayahuasca-the Soul Vine, Ayahuasca-The Soul Vine Options

Greetings All,

A few weeks ago I had been reading of the Tree of Knowledge in a Book called "The Book of Fallen Angels" by Michael Howard. In the book there was a description of a 1961 Anthropologists encounter with the yahuasca Vine of the Conibo Peruvian Indians in the Amazon Rain Forest.

The encounter and experience described by the AnthropologistMichael Horner, Ph.D, excited me to the point that I ordered some Ayahuasca Vine through a Botanical Herbal Company. The pulped Vine was delivered by the Post Office some days later and I began prepartion of the Concoction the best way i could figure. I added water about 5 times and boiled it down each time to a soupy concoction. I then let it cool for about 1 1/2 hours and began drinking it.

I can sure see why the Anthropologist called the drink "The Little Death" since it has got to be the most bitter tasting drink I ever drank. Plus the last effects you will have is a motion sickness that seems like the merest movement shall make your skeleton come out of the skin. And your guts shall wrench as if you are about to vomit, yet I never did.

Now for the Good and Finer effects from the Ayahuasca Vine after first drinking the potion. It seemed as if there were traces of light pattern in the area above my head and wherever there was anything shiny it was magnified many times. The music I played was Rush 2112 on the Stereo and it was as if each chord and not was alive with vibrational color, and as if there was some Inner Meaning coming through the Music that was delivering my Soul, or in a sense giving me Spiritual Merit.

Then I was overwhelmed with the euphoric feeling of Well-Being and a Warm Nestalgia concerning anything my mind seemed to think about. It was a time of great exhileration as well as if the energy from the core of the Earth were drawing up through my feet and upward throughout all Energy Centers of my Body. The Currents of Energy went to a space just above my Head and seemed to settle there as a protective covering.

The last think I experienced worth noting was; I had to shut my eyes because they were getting very heavy and I was becoming tired fast. While my eyes were shut, Isaw a Emerald Luminescent Lunar Munath that seemed to Radiate an Energy around it in my Spiritual Site. It was three dimensional and it appeared fully formed. I still don't know why I saw that. Plus there were various color swhirls as of energy patterns in my sight just before I fell asleep.

Has anyone else had any experience with the Ayahuasca Vine. I would be interested in hearing of your experience. By the way it was legal to purchase the vine online.

Respectfully,
Helel (Joseph)

(PS that's Michael Harner, PhD, founded the Shamanic Institue)

search the internet, there are many many sites for it.

Ayahuasca is indeed ALWAYS 2 hebs, so to say it is the soul vine is false, since it is in fact a combination of 2 different plants.
And a combination of 2 different types of plant:

1. The inhibitor
this plant stops certain enzymes in your body from breaking down the DMT in the other plant. It is therefor called a monoamine oxydase inhibitor.
However, this same function makes you at risk for various types of heavy and deadly food poisoning. This can and will kill you if you are not careful. You must be aware of what you eat before and after taking this plant.
Possible plants: Banisteriopsis caapi, Peganum harmala,

2. The DMT containt herb.
This is the psychoactive plant, however without the first plant it cannot and will not ever induce any effects. The drug DMT can run its free course because the mono amines that normally break it down are disabled by the inhibitor.
Plants: Psychotria viridis, Mimosa hostilis, Chaliponga, Desmanthus illinoensis, Phalaris arundinacea,


The combination of these 2 is called Ayahuasca, which is the name of the brew, there is no vine or plant that is called ayahuasca.
Ayahuasca can be made with various plants, but it is always a combination of the above 2 types.
Possible plants are listed above under 1 or 2. Though the list is not complete. Any combination of plants from list1 and 2 can be called ayahuasca.
But please be careful what you eat with it, because you could die, not from the drugg itself but from the food you eat after or before it.


The reason DMT is called a buisines mans trip is because when smoked a DMT trip lasts about 40 minutes and can be taken during lunch. However the herbs contain almost no DMT and are not active when smoked, unless you smoke the equivalent of 50 -100 cigarettes on a 10 minute period. The smoked DMT is always pure freebase DMT that can be smoked, its in crystal form. google google images for freebase DMT. You will not get any DMT effects from smoking herbs that are used in ayahuasca.
There are guides on how to make freebase DMT available on the internet, you could buy some phalaris and extract it freebase from that. Its cheap, the grass is easy to grow and it won't attract any unwanted attantion from police.


What extinctionspasm describes are the effects of pure DMT, they are entirely different from ayahuasca, freebase DMT is much more direct and over much quiker as wel, while ayahuasca can take almost 6-8 hours if i remember correctly.

Also, DMT is not only released during death, it has been found that you trip on DMT every night. When the body slips into dreamstate the pineal gland releases DMT into the brain, which causes dreams to occur. This happens every night, even if you don't remember it. So the pope himselfs trips on DMT every night!

I read the same book it seems as extinctionspasm, but he did not remember the read accurately.
The book is called "Dmt: the Spirit Molecule" by the same rick as extinctionspasm mentions. However the book is on DMT that is injected into the subjects of the tests, not taken orally. The effects described in the book are enourmously different from the effects of ayahuasca.
The quick come-on of the drug, the intense visions and slipping into a complete dream state (i.e. eyes closed and half asleep) are the most prevalent effects of freebase DMT, however these effects do not occur when taking ayahuasca or perhaps some really mellowed down version.

Ayahuasca is mellower, slower, more organic in its effects than freebase DMT, freebase takes you and pulls you from this world, in a few seconds, very harshly and before you are completely aware of it. It is said that when smoking freebase you will remember your third inhalation, but not the exhalation of the smoke.

This post has been edited by A_Smoking_Fox: Jun 25 2007, 03:03 PM