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post Jul 3 2007, 01:26 PM
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Hey everyone,

I'm almost finished with a hebrew goetic circle I'm making, and I've already checked out all the hebrew names (in english and hebrew, cross referencing with crowleys goetic circle and various online sources) but unfortunately, I can't find a site that actually has the hebrew letter names for metatron. It looks to me like metatron, in crowleys circle, is spelled with a zy-in at the end, but that doesn't make sense to me. So can someone spell out the names for me? I've got mehm-teht-teht-resh-vahv-and of course the zy-in. But like I said, that doesn't sound right to me. Seems to me it should have a nun at the end.

Can somebody be kind enough to clear that up for me? The hebrew fonts on most sites are terrible!


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post Jul 3 2007, 01:47 PM
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It's mem tet tet resh vau final-nun - it's probably a misprint!

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I had to do the same thing as you so I don't know if my transliteration of the 72 names was 100% accurate, it must be difficult for other folk too - I'll make a thread sometime on this to save other people the trouble and to sort out any mistakes i made.

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QUOTE(Zugzwang @ Jul 3 2007, 02:47 PM) *
It's mem tet tet resh vau final-nun - it's probably a misprint!


A-HA! Thank you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I also was wondering if it's on purpose that crowley used final mehim for several words instead of mehm like Ha-Galgalim is spelled usually like HaGLGLYM in online sources, but it's never specified if the M is a mehm or a mehim, but crowley used final mehim in the circle. Any thoughts on that?

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QUOTE(altpath @ Jul 3 2007, 10:05 PM) *
I also was wondering if it's on purpose that crowley used final mehim for several words instead of mehm like Ha-Galgalim is spelled usually like HaGLGLYM in online sources, but it's never specified if the M is a mehm or a mehim, but crowley used final mehim in the circle. Any thoughts on that?

As you know the final letters are used at the end of sentences, the ring of names isn't a sentence but a list of titles in the order of atziluth, the name of a sephira, briah, yeszirah, then the hebrew name of the planet/zodiac/primum mobile - because these are individual words and not part of a overall sentence (they are separate from each other in the same way the cells in a table are) they should be treated separately, using the final letters makes sense when you look at it this way.

The way to check is to find a table or list written in hebrew to see if they used the finals or not!

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QUOTE(Zugzwang @ Jul 4 2007, 10:43 AM) *
As you know the final letters are used at the end of sentences...


Actually before I started this project, I didn't know anything about hebrew (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But I'm learning a lot, and I appreciate the help. I'm almost finished with the circle, but I've found that the hebrew is too small to go all the way around the circle three times the way it's drawn in the manuscripts and books so I'm just assuming it's like that to simply be an example, and not the way it's really supposed to look. So far, I'm thinking that the names will only go around the circle once and a half times.

I really appreciate the help, you're a life-saver!


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