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The Reality of Global Warming
Is it real?
YES!!! [ 27 ] ** [84.38%]
NO!!! [ 2 ] ** [6.25%]
How the Hell should I Know?!!! [ 1 ] ** [3.12%]
F#$% you Acid I'm not playing [ 2 ] ** [6.25%]
Do you believe human activities have caused or speed up global warming?
YES!!! [ 19 ] ** [59.38%]
NO!!! [ 10 ] ** [31.25%]
No F#$%ing clue dude [ 3 ] ** [9.38%]
Which of the following, if any, do you believe have contributed to global warming?
Deforrestation [ 17 ] ** [15.74%]
Air pollution / green house gasses. [ 20 ] ** [18.52%]
Over Population [ 18 ] ** [16.67%]
Toxic matterials and wastes [ 16 ] ** [14.81%]
Google [ 5 ] ** [4.63%]
Industrialization of under developed countries [ 15 ] ** [13.89%]
Other (please explain cuz I'm running out of ideas) [ 9 ] ** [8.33%]
Cow Farts (technically methane is a green house gas) [ 8 ] ** [7.41%]
Do you think we can really do anything to stop or even slow down Global Warming?
YES!!! [ 12 ] ** [37.50%]
Hell NO!! We're gonna burn baby!!! [ 15 ] ** [46.88%]
No F#$%ing clue man. [ 5 ] ** [15.62%]
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Acid09
post Jun 20 2007, 06:47 PM
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Ok as usual I will hold back at first to try and not taint the topic with any percieved biased notions and wait for others to add their opinions. The intention of this topic is to discuss the reality of gloabal warming, what people are doing to cause it (if we even are), and what can be done about it, if anything. Global warming is a highly debatable topic all opinions welcome just remember to keep it cool because it may contribute to global warming if you don't.
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post Jul 13 2007, 07:40 AM
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Something is happening with the earth. The ice caps are melting at a faster and faster pace. There are no longer glaciers in glacier national park, the last one melted about two years ago. Mt. Kilimanjaro is no longer capped with snow. Are we to blame? Is the earth just going through a normal cycle we don't recognize? Is the sun heating up for some reason?

I haven't a clue but I think it is obvious something is going on. It is already 105 with the heat index where I live and if it gets even one degree hotter I am going to snap and kill someone.

I don't think environmentalism is all that bad per say. What is the use in being wasteful? Besides green is often cheaper. I added more insulation in my attic and changed to florescent bulbs in my house. Not because I think it will help global warming but because I am a cheap bastard and would like to lower my power bill.

If you really wanted to reduce CO2 emissions then ban paper recycling. They have already proved that paper takes over a 1000 years to decompose in landfills. So the CO2 is locked in the ground. Less recycled paper in the market means more trees must be cut and replanted. Young trees grow faster than older trees absorbing CO2 at a faster rate out of the atmosphere. To speed the cooling process we should burn more coal. More sulfides in the atmosphere will increase our albedo and cool the planet. Of course with more SOX comes acid rain but you can't have everything. Less activism can actually save the earth.

BTW, I also wanted to point out the fallacy of the volcano myth. Conservative talk guys love to point out the shear massive CO2 ejection from volcanoes and laugh and say we have no effect. It is more complex than that. Yes volcanoes put out lots of CO2. CO2 is an IR active gas and has an effect upon global warming. BUT, volcanoes also put out a lot of sulphides which I explained has a cooling effect. Also they put out a LOT of ash which increases the albedo many times more than sulphides. Remember the ice age that killed off the dinosaurs that was caused by the massive amount of dust created from the meteor? Same concept, bottom line volcanoes balance itself out with respect to global warming.

I applaud Gore for bringing the issue to the common man but lets face it, he knows nothing about atmospheric chemistry. The current green focus solely on CO2 is stupid because it is far more complex than that. There are thousands of IR active gases, but yes CO2 is the largest but only concentrating on that is not going to help.


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Acid09   Global Warming   Jun 20 2007, 06:47 PM
Imperial Arts   One medium-sized volcanic eruption dwarfs the enti...   Jun 20 2007, 07:17 PM
Acid09   I'm glad you brought that up. Taking astronom...   Jun 21 2007, 01:26 PM
Galdr Nidsson   You scare me guys... :cry: Aren't you a li...   Jun 22 2007, 10:01 PM
Ashnook   Cut out Hilary and all the socialism, is green rea...   Jul 13 2007, 06:11 AM
Acid09   My aunt's flowers bloomed about 3 weeks before...   Jun 25 2007, 06:53 PM
Sarena   I'm bored of the environment. All I hear is ...   Jun 30 2007, 10:06 AM
Galdr Nidsson   [size=1][color=#990000]I'm bored of the enviro...   Jul 2 2007, 02:37 AM
Xenomancer   Despite the the fact that there are many valid the...   Jul 1 2007, 05:04 PM
Sarena   Yes, it's saving dirt. And currently this ...   Jul 2 2007, 03:40 AM
Gregathol   More imminent issues. Right. :D I think the pl...   Jul 3 2007, 09:37 AM
Sarena   Violations of human rights. Children starving. Ine...   Jul 4 2007, 11:35 AM
Gregathol   All I'm saying is that without our environment...   Jul 4 2007, 08:40 PM
Sarena   [size=1]If you look above I said that we should st...   Jul 4 2007, 10:46 PM
Acid09   I would argue we are putting more effort into the...   Jul 5 2007, 06:24 PM
Slayden   *annoyed* Um... you can blame teh son fer globe-il...   Jul 7 2007, 08:18 AM
Sarena   I'm changing my opinion about global warming-I...   Jul 8 2007, 11:06 PM
Slayden   Read my post. It's not CO2 emmissions. It...   Jul 8 2007, 11:46 PM
Acid09   Man f%*! the polar bears. People like Oprah ha...   Jul 10 2007, 04:49 PM
Slayden   :goodposting: I agree 100%. Global warming is a ...   Jul 11 2007, 11:46 PM
Acid09   You are right about the volcano myth as far as con...   Jul 20 2007, 05:01 PM
paxx   Global warming is currently happening, at a very s...   Oct 28 2007, 09:49 AM
Acid09   Yeah I mean weren't nagasaki and hiroshima re...   Nov 7 2007, 10:24 PM
paxx   Ok, assume global warming is happening and we are ...   Nov 8 2007, 02:14 AM
Acid09   Green house gasses are like a blanket that both ...   Nov 8 2007, 07:23 PM
Acid09   There are approximately 5.148 x 10^12 (5,148,000,0...   Jun 1 2008, 05:35 PM
Esoterigma   There are approximately 5.148 x 10^12 (5,148,000,0...   Jun 3 2008, 02:17 AM
Acid09   Some anthropologists theorize that past ice ages ...   Jun 3 2008, 09:37 PM

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