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Kin234
post Jul 22 2007, 10:20 PM
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Don't know if this is the right place to ask or if anyone has any experience with this but the last few nights i've been having some strange experiences.

I have been a lucid dreamer all my life and do it very regularly quite naturally, but the last few nights, the dreams have seemed so real and i've had a very high level of conscious awareness. Normally this would be a good thing, but the last few nights i've been battling it out against demons, evil spirits, etc. Luckily for me, I know how to force myself awake, but as soon as i fall asleep again I find myself in the same situation. I've been trying everything to fend them off but nothing seems to be working.

Here is what i've tried so far:
-sending love, picturing things that make me happy and saying to them "I forgive you and god loves you"
-calling out for god's help, and help from Jesus Christ
-Visualising myself being filled and surrounded by white light, I also tried other colours of light.

I hate to say it, but none of these new agey techniques seem to work. Is there anyone out there who has a real technique that works? do i need to fight fire with fire?

These dreams seem to be getting more intense, the last one they started "charging up" and throwing fireballs at me, it was like their body started glowing bright red and then fireballs would shoot out from their hands. Even if these are just dreams, and I am not some place in between, I would still like to know at least one or two ways of defending myself for future reference.

Hopefully there is someone on this forum who has dealt with this kind of thing in reality and has a tried and tested self-defense technique.


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post Jul 23 2007, 12:41 AM
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Consider very carefully the context of the dreams, the elemental inclination of the entities you've been battling, and the place of those elements in your personality. By elements I do not mean necessarily just earth/air/fire/water, but rather elemental emotions as well - fear, anger, etc.

I have had these kinds of dreams in the past - obviously they are individual for everyone, possibly unique, but there is merit to the idea of the jungian archetype, which I have seen to be quite accurate on many occasions even before I took stock in it. Often times, the demons or entities that are attacking you in dreams, are aspects of your own mind which are working against your goals, your hopes, etc. Self-defeating personality traits, addictions, and sometimes external forces - a co-worker who is spreading gossip, etc.; however in most cases I have encountered, other people working against you are usually portrayed in dream language as animals, sometimes predators or insects (depending on how you view such people).

Spiritual warfare is a serious affair, and contrary to popular culture, require more than new-age imagery and clever spellwork. There is not enough weight given to the old axiom "Know Thyself." Explore the symbolism in your dreams, the actions of the entities, and consider how best to interpret them. Follow your instincts - perhaps even create a sigil for the purpose of comprehending the meaning of those symbols. Come to understand what they truly are, within your own psyche, and you will know how to rid yourself of these entities.

I preach it all over the place on these forums, I know, but I'll say it again. Entities that attack you are both internal and external. They are external in that there are external energies that will react with dissonance to your own energetic sphere - however, that dissonance is caused by internal variations. Seek harmony, and the dissonance becomes resonance, and what you perceive as 'attack' will stop. It is said that such demons and lower beings attack us at our weak points. That's what this means - find the weak point, and fix it. Internal, external, all tied together.

If you have these dreams, and you're lucid enough to choose your actions, demand explanations from the beings attacking you. Stand your ground, remember, they are on your turf, and have to account for their presence there. One could say that cosmic law demands this, but that doesn't mean what it sounds like.

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Kin234   Does Anyone Have Any Self-defense Tips?   Jul 22 2007, 10:20 PM
Slayden   Kin234, I know EXACTLY what you are going through....   Jul 23 2007, 02:41 AM
Kin234   Thanks for the replies guys, some very good advice...   Jul 23 2007, 05:57 AM
Slayden   For the fighting fire with fire part, summon the e...   Jul 23 2007, 06:23 AM
Kin234   Cool, thanks for that Slayden :) I'm usually ...   Jul 23 2007, 06:45 AM
Slayden   Ah. Psi-shields are a little different. They offer...   Jul 26 2007, 12:55 AM
4symbols   The best method of defence it forming in own consc...   Aug 17 2007, 01:29 AM
Petrus   Normally this would be a good thing, but the last ...   Nov 25 2007, 12:58 PM
telempath   Here is what i've tried so far: -sending love,...   Nov 25 2007, 02:02 PM
Lucian   Ave Cutting to the chase: Use shielding technique...   Dec 7 2007, 05:53 PM
altpath   Kin234, those are bad attacks being sent to you b...   Dec 8 2007, 11:51 PM
azareth   I used to have this problem a while ago, and it go...   Jul 6 2008, 12:47 AM
Krell   I have to throw in with Vagrant Dreamer. Everythi...   Jul 6 2008, 09:32 AM
+ Kinjo -   A friend of mine currently are spiritually attacke...   Aug 9 2008, 03:52 PM
Krell   The rusty nail makes sense. Perhaps there are oth...   Aug 12 2008, 10:18 AM
Aphrodite   I believe that those are external entities attacki...   Aug 12 2008, 08:55 PM
eternal ginja   i have to agree with krell and vagrant. internal c...   Sep 17 2008, 07:38 PM
Shimi   Ok there arent enough symptoms to suggest that a b...   Feb 17 2010, 08:30 PM
Moonchilde   First, I must say that I am not entirely convinced...   Feb 18 2010, 10:02 PM
SororZSD23   this post originated some years ago so it would be...   Feb 19 2010, 08:31 AM
anatole   i did not finished reading all the posts, i stoppe...   May 25 2010, 10:30 PM
Slyphhur   If you really want to fight them then you are goin...   May 26 2010, 09:21 AM
Fr. 0   I have to agree with Vagrant Dreamer on this. It ...   Jun 18 2010, 11:10 AM

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