Raising And/or Animating The Dead Options

I'm wasn't sure if I should have put this here in Esoteric Discussions, Left Hand Path, or in the Ceremonial Magick forums so I put it here.

Ressurection can be performed by a few Christian evangelists today, but is there an occult way to do it? Also, what about animation? what Hollywood enjoys calling "zombies." I don't care how light, dark, good, or evil the magick is. I want to know if it is possible to do it, whether for kicks, servitors, or just saying "I can," or if it's simply fantasy. And I'm not talking about Necromancy, as that is just summoning the spirits of the deceased to acquire information. I'm talking about bodies on the physical plane getting up and walking. Could a spirit be channeled into a dead body to possess and use it as a vessel?

Basically I wan't to know two things:

1. Can someone be brought back to life (truly alive) by occult means.

2. Is it possible to animate the dead (dead but moving).

The self is your current experiences in the karmic cycle.

Your soul has had many selves, each separate and distinct (through experience).

Or do you assume that the soul is living the same life over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?

To say that, would then be to deny individuality.

Of course, relatively speaking... there is no difference between life and death.
So one cannot really bring something "back" to life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The self is your current experiences in the karmic cycle.

Your soul has had many selves, each separate and distinct (through experience).

Or do you assume that the soul is living the same life over and over ... and over?

To say that, would then be to deny individuality.

Of course, relatively speaking... there is no difference between life and death.
So one cannot really bring something "back" to life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You seem to be speaking of the Ego as the self. The ego is a composite effect, an illusion of dimensions. It cannot be the self because the self is enduring. Individuality exists only in the relative sense. In the absolute sense, I deny it completely. There is only one consciousness, one body, and one soul, aspects of one unified originator, and we are it's parts. We perceive ourselves as individuals because of the illusion of the Ego. That does not mean that the individuated state of reality is ephemeral - it is real to us and operates as though it were real, until it is transcended.

Are you the same person as you were when you were born? Are you the same as you were at ten, fifteen? The change in who you are as you grow reflects the the same process which, though to a greater degree, your soul goes through from life to life. Of course you aren't living the same life over and over again - no more than you are repeating your childhood as we speak. You grew and evolved, and learned to live in the world differently, now aware of higher laws than you understood as a child. The growth and evolution of a soul is the same concept to greater degree.

To consider your self 'your current experiences in the karmic cycle' is to greatly oversimplify the individual. I am not speaking of the small self, but the True Self, the origin of your perspective. I'm not talking about personality, I'm talking about the point of view, the awareness, the individual, not the vehicle. The vehicle is not the self - it's the vehicle; the ego, the body, the consciousness.

In one way you are right, but not in the way you mean it. Like I said before, the soul contains the pattern of your karma. So yes, you are your karmic experiences in a sense, but the karmic experience is a quality of the soul, not it's absolute being. It's being holds that karma.

Saying there is no difference between life and death is like saying there is no difference between cold water and hot water. Of course there is a difference - same substance, sure, but different conditions.

peace