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Samas
post Sep 20 2007, 03:01 PM
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As anyone will tell you numerology is an important part of magic here is what confuses me.

Do Catholics not accept the significance of magical numbers or do they think them evil like they do magic in general?

This is because some of the main magical numbers in use are 3 7 13 and these crop up in the bible and the significance of some of them is emphasised.

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3 = the holy trinity, wise men
7 = the days of creation + the arch angels
13 = the number of apostles and jesus

are these numbers of a holy nature or a magical nature? or both?

can someone please tell me why numbers became so embedded in magic and why the number 15 is assosciated with ishtar.

i had thought the number 2 more linked to her because in love there are two people, and in war there are two sides. if you could give any reason why certain gods are given certain numbers i would be very much grateful.

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post Sep 20 2007, 06:21 PM
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I guess that would depend on how religious one was. And it's not limited to catholics you know. But one remark did confuse me.

You mentioned 7 Arch Angels? I thought there was only 5.
Michael
Raphael
Gabriel
Uriel
Lucifer (he may have fallen but he's still an Arch Angel)

Who are the other 2?

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post Sep 21 2007, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(gmcbroom @ Sep 21 2007, 01:21 AM) *
I guess that would depend on how religious one was. And it's not limited to catholics you know. But one remark did confuse me.

You mentioned 7 Arch Angels? I thought there was only 5.
Michael
Raphael
Gabriel
Uriel
Lucifer (he may have fallen but he's still an Arch Angel)

Who are the other 2?

Sincerely,
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The apocryphal 1Enoch 20 lists the archangels as Uriel, Raphael, Raguel, Michael, Sariel, Gabriel, and Remiel

the names seem to differ a lot from varying sources but it does usually stay at seven.

besides i didn't think lucifer was an arch angel, he was on the mercy seat, and had risen to that station. The archangels were made in thier positions

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