Is There More To The Goetia Thanmeets The Eye Options

Greetings, I'm asking fo opinions/views on the goetia as wriiten and used to obtain physical manifestation.

I have for the past few months gathered the tools, everything is complete. Followed the class lessons, and the text in the book( I have Petersons book and the Crowly/mathers version), experimenting with the procedure. I began conjuring three months ago, and I must say I have had no noticeable results. I use the proper metals for the seals etc experimented with the conjurations using different versions etc, with nothing showing even partial results.

I have used things like dittany of crete for manifestaion aswell. My question really is, it would seem the goetia doesn't work as written for physical manifestation, so is there more to the goetia than meets the eye? and am I missing something? I have a feeling there are more subtle aspects to this system, which are not written down. I would like to ask others who have had success with this system for their views and opinions, and what they believe results in thier success.

Thanks Loki

There's nothing wrong with altering a text to make it suit your needs better. Good cooks do it all the time. As for the manifestation, I don't care if the physical manifestation is spotty so long as the spirit does what I requested. After all, that's what I'm calling them for anyway.

If you've got the tools and the requisite knowledge (and it sounds like you do) then just jump in and do it. Don't worry too much about overanalyzing things as you'll just wind up chasing your tail and getting nowhere. But then I'm a pragmatist, so...but it sounds like you're at the point where you need to stop reading and start doing.

In any case, good luck, and post your results!

...but it sounds like you're at the point where you need to stop reading and start doing.

I hope Loki doesn't me answering this for him, but he has been 'doing' for several months now. It's not the case of cold feet or theorizing too much - he has done the ritual over and over again without results. I know, because I am in the same place as he is. We are both following the 'orthodox' procedure step-by-step and getting seemingly nowhere.

-Theodor