Is There More To The Goetia Thanmeets The Eye Options

Greetings, I'm asking fo opinions/views on the goetia as wriiten and used to obtain physical manifestation.

I have for the past few months gathered the tools, everything is complete. Followed the class lessons, and the text in the book( I have Petersons book and the Crowly/mathers version), experimenting with the procedure. I began conjuring three months ago, and I must say I have had no noticeable results. I use the proper metals for the seals etc experimented with the conjurations using different versions etc, with nothing showing even partial results.

I have used things like dittany of crete for manifestaion aswell. My question really is, it would seem the goetia doesn't work as written for physical manifestation, so is there more to the goetia than meets the eye? and am I missing something? I have a feeling there are more subtle aspects to this system, which are not written down. I would like to ask others who have had success with this system for their views and opinions, and what they believe results in thier success.

Thanks Loki

You're very welcome. I hope you don't feel I was talking down to you, because that was not my intention. But I personally almost never get a visible appearance (usually because I never have a chance to do rituals outdoors, or under optimal conditions like under the moonlight, or in a woody area, mainly because of the dangers of crazy people living out there), and even so I get results. To me, that's all that matters.

Also, like darkmage, I don't have good astral senses, so I get very intense and vivid dreams after evocations. Look out for that, and be consistent. Don't evoke a different demon each time. Go for a specific one, in case you haven't been doing that for the past several months.