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post Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
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As a person, I have a big ego. I want to win at all costs. I want this and that. I simply want to have it my way. I want the cake and the icing too. I am spoiled and always want to take more than I give back. Is this an example of an Ego?

My ego boost me to gain riches, health, love and many other conquests.
My ego also make new enemies, destroy and corrupt various aspects of me and my environment consciously and subconsciously.

What is EGO? What does this word means?
How do you define it? How do you keep it your slave instead of it enslaving you?
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post May 8 2005, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(| Kinjo @ Apr 28 2005, 10:53 AM)
Do what thou wilt can also be abused. Literally it could mean Do whatever you want! Ego is definately complicated thing aye! Especially when we analyze it too much lol!

To try to put it simply: controlling ego = do what we want while strive to achieve a win/win solution?


Do what thou wilt, is only half of it, shall be the whole of the law, love is the law, love under will is the other half. What Crowley meant by this was to connect with your HGA and only do your TRUE WILL. Beleive me, doing your true will is a far cry from doing everything you want <darn lol>.
Crowley even went so far as to state that any works of magick that are not in line with your true will is a working of black magick!! Pretty intense theory there. I can sort of see his point though, when one works magic before discovering their true will they are just going back and forth since they don't really know what they want. Also, all the inner crap that has yet to be worked out could taint the workings. However if one goes by what Crowley says on the topic, every magician would be doing nothing but middle pillers for their first few years of magic until they hit 25 and could go do the Abramelin operation, meet their HGA and discover their true will LOL.
I have found that it is not wise to try to destroy or get rid of the ego, it is much needed for survival in the day to day world. It might be a good idea if one is to take up the life of a monk and does not need a mundane job etc. For me it has worked best to train my ego. You know rewards when something difficult gets done, and lack of rewards (I'll pass on the whole razorblade punishment bit thanks) when something does not get done. I have found ego only to be a problem when it takes over and one is obsessed by ego desires, instead of using it as a valueable tool. The ego is a strong driving force, and can be used to get an amazing amount done!
I have also found that keeping track of what we do, a watch on our actions and life is a great help, as is daily magical and spiritual practice to keep one in perspective.
Speaking of ego, I have to say, the final week of the Abramelin operation was the scariest week of my life! And beleive me, I have experiences some intense stuff before that!
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| Kinjo   Ego   Apr 26 2005, 02:08 AM
mediocracy   I'm not sure what the 'proper' descrip...   Apr 26 2005, 06:05 AM
UniOne   Ego is a combination of pride and darkness... It i...   Apr 26 2005, 07:55 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What you describe as ego in the above is in a part...   Apr 26 2005, 11:20 AM
| Kinjo   Killing the ego is like killing life. I am where I...   Apr 26 2005, 11:42 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   the ego is a word. it means whatever you associate...   Apr 26 2005, 12:47 PM
| Kinjo   Seemed like Ego and other things means a lot of di...   Apr 26 2005, 04:58 PM
DropAndRiver   The only way I've been able to manage my ego i...   Apr 26 2005, 05:59 PM
| Kinjo   Let's try to clarify and define what "ego...   Apr 26 2005, 06:16 PM
Zahaqiel   In the Freudian sense, not quite. Freud divided t...   Apr 26 2005, 11:19 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Thats a dangerous statement, and one that could ...   Apr 27 2005, 12:27 AM
Zahaqiel   Not really. So I should place my own health abo...   Apr 27 2005, 02:07 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   What i meant is punching someone who punched you...   Apr 28 2005, 04:19 AM
animus   All this talk about killing the ego or not being d...   Apr 28 2005, 04:25 AM
| Kinjo   Do what thou wilt can also be abused. Literally it...   Apr 28 2005, 04:53 AM
animus   Isn't this kind of the point? Do what thou ...   Apr 28 2005, 06:07 AM
mediocracy   Some would say that 'do what thou wilt' is...   Apr 28 2005, 11:30 AM
Radiant Star   Ego is the thing that gets us through until we fin...   Apr 28 2005, 12:35 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   I agree to Radiant Star, Its all about finding the...   Apr 29 2005, 07:17 AM
Radiant Star   I think the greatest problem with the ego is other...   Apr 29 2005, 01:14 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Lol, good one. Some people are showing their big ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:30 PM
animus   Just thought i'd post what www.dictionary.com ...   Apr 29 2005, 02:46 PM
Radiant Star   :goodposting: animus :) Aha! with that hel...   Apr 29 2005, 03:19 PM
Zahaqiel   Ok then, I can see how my stance might be constru...   Apr 29 2005, 06:23 PM
Radiant Star   We would probably choose a more effective way of d...   Apr 30 2005, 01:35 AM
Zahaqiel   Same goes for those without a self-esteem scale. ;...   Apr 30 2005, 02:11 AM
animus   Haven't really thought about this much but wil...   Apr 30 2005, 03:09 AM
Radiant Star   I think that although the language may differ, the...   Apr 30 2005, 03:28 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   Apr 30 2005, 01:08 PM
mediocracy   Ghandi managed to overthrow the mightiest empir...   May 1 2005, 12:41 AM
Radiant Star   This is true about the pacifist time line; my thin...   May 1 2005, 02:15 AM
Zahaqiel   Alternatively, if you do punch back, they'll ...   May 1 2005, 04:25 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   amen to that Radiant Star. In the end it all depe...   May 1 2005, 07:15 AM
Radiant Star   Now I am impressed A_Smoking_fox :wandwizard: :...   May 1 2005, 11:42 AM
animus   Very nicely put, sacred-magick should have a ran...   May 1 2005, 01:24 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Radiant Star and Animus, you both honor me with su...   May 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Mr_Merlin   I perceive the ego as the 'machine consciousne...   May 8 2005, 05:39 AM
Athena   Thats where you are wrong. If you don't punc...   May 8 2005, 12:47 PM
bym   To all who have posted here...Thanks! Becomin...   May 8 2005, 01:10 PM
Radiant Star   Mental muscles I presume Bym, unless you are pract...   May 8 2005, 01:53 PM
bym   Absolutely! Eh....mental muscles...actually le...   May 8 2005, 03:01 PM
Mr_Merlin   Sometimes when you are your true self and you know...   May 8 2005, 03:16 PM
Praxis   My ego is the negative contrast for my character. ...   Aug 7 2005, 07:11 PM
Radiant Star   The way I see it, the ego is a balancer. I see it...   Aug 10 2005, 06:07 AM
Joseph   :blablabla: Greetings All, In my understand...   Nov 26 2006, 10:46 AM
smasher666   Greetings Joseph, I agree. My understanding of ...   Nov 26 2006, 11:21 AM
extinctionspasm   The ego concept has been develloped well beyong fr...   Nov 26 2006, 06:33 PM
esoterica   thesis: ego is a natural urge for survival of a gr...   Nov 27 2006, 09:37 AM
Gopendra   next page sorry :Oops!:   Dec 29 2006, 05:34 AM
Gopendra   The soul is constituted by a substance above in wh...   Dec 29 2006, 05:40 AM
The Wanderer   ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The spirits speak only on...   Apr 26 2007, 10:56 AM

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