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post Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
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What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induced state help/hinder your grasp on magick, or both? I've thought about if it would alter your ability to grasp energy, yet at the same time, could it help you become more aware of the surroundings, or your self-conscious? So what are the opinions, or facts on this subject?


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post Oct 28 2007, 08:38 PM
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But how is one really supposed to use them for the first time if they really need to know what they are doing?

Also peyote and yage (more commonly known as caapi) are not equivalents, San Pedro is the South American equivalent to peyote as far as active ingredients go. I do not know as far as planes of existence attained though as I have not used Peyote or yage/Caapi. San Pedro I know as a much more social experience then most similar drugs, but that is in part because of the preparation.

I agree totally with the sentiment, that wise ones should only use it. I am more practical in the knowledge that if any experience like this should take place it should be before the age of 21 or 22 (few are wise by this age) for the first time, if not it is preferable that some highly altered state be attained before getting there by artificial means.

The reason I say this is because it can be a hard thing for the brain to accept, and many of these drugs are like an express way ticket to a plane of existence. People who are not open to it can have very bad experiences just trying to internalize or make sense of the experience that they are suddenly in the midst of with no way out but to ride it out.

I also feel you should really inform yourself before trying anything, but that is not always possible (especially if you are in the midst of the right environment). However I could also argue that with the internet…there is no reason to not be well informed. Two to three hours of research on a few reputable sites will inform you quite a bit.


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QUOTE(paxx @ Oct 28 2007, 10:38 PM) *
But how is one really supposed to use them for the first time if they really need to know what they are doing?

Also peyote and yage (more commonly known as caapi) are not equivalents, San Pedro is the South American equivalent to peyote as far as active ingredients go. I do not know as far as planes of existence attained though as I have not used Peyote or yage/Caapi. San Pedro I know as a much more social experience then most similar drugs, but that is in part because of the preparation.

I agree totally with the sentiment, that wise ones should only use it. I am more practical in the knowledge that if any experience like this should take place it should be before the age of 21 or 22 (few are wise by this age) for the first time, if not it is preferable that some highly altered state be attained before getting there by artificial means.

The reason I say this is because it can be a hard thing for the brain to accept, and many of these drugs are like an express way ticket to a plane of existence. People who are not open to it can have very bad experiences just trying to internalize or make sense of the experience that they are suddenly in the midst of with no way out but to ride it out.

I also feel you should really inform yourself before trying anything, but that is not always possible (especially if you are in the midst of the right environment). However I could also argue that with the internet…there is no reason to not be well informed. Two to three hours of research on a few reputable sites will inform you quite a bit.

well, I wish to thank you for correcting my error, AND also thank you for your opinion, Im glad sombody actually thinks that handling this substances is somthing of great responsability...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clapping.gif)


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Theft   Use Of Drugs For Magickal Purposes   Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   i have experimented with drugs and magick. Its tri...   Nov 1 2006, 10:19 AM
Theft   Erowid is one of my favorite sites to visit becaus...   Nov 1 2006, 11:27 AM
Acid09   The main problem with drugs is that they act like ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:03 PM
Theft   I constantly refer back to erowid.com for medical ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:26 PM
Acid09   Sorry I just can't possibly consider dxm a ...   Nov 1 2006, 06:16 PM
Theft   I used it from an over-the-counter medicine and es...   Nov 1 2006, 07:08 PM
extinctionspasm   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Nov 1 2006, 09:41 PM
kairos   If you know anything about the Qabalah you will kn...   Nov 3 2006, 01:27 PM
norrinradd   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Oct 30 2007, 01:32 AM
wizardgryphon   i agree even though im using marijauna now for dee...   Oct 30 2007, 02:52 PM
extinctionspasm   There is so much to this topic, and without intend...   Nov 3 2006, 11:52 PM
sithhunter   There are initiations that use drugs, and I think ...   Nov 6 2006, 12:44 AM
CosmicInferno   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 20 2007, 08:25 PM
Samas   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 21 2007, 02:22 AM
Goibniu   Personally I wouldn't use drugs for magical pu...   Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM
paxx   Drugs…and their use in Magick. Is a very interesti...   Oct 26 2007, 06:16 PM
wizardgryphon   if you mean like the use of peyote, mooshrooms, an...   Oct 28 2007, 03:17 PM
Krell   All good advice I think. There seems to be the im...   Jun 27 2008, 09:04 AM
Imperial Arts   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 12:12 PM
shamanwizard   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 09:49 PM
Imperial Arts   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 29 2008, 11:31 PM
shamanwizard   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 30 2008, 03:24 PM
Acid09   I agree with both of you. There are legitimate spi...   Jun 29 2008, 06:25 PM
Acid09   What gets to me are all those "male enhance...   Jun 30 2008, 06:14 PM
Jenfucius   What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induc...   Nov 12 2008, 05:21 PM

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