Pet Peeve., Quantum Physics it’s involvement in Magick Options

Using science catch phrases to further your agenda or personal beliefs when you understand nothing of the science you are talking about. I could go into global warming, but that would make this alot longer.

I see this done over and over again, why is it necessary to justify something with something else when 90% of the time they understand neither subject?

I totally get it is a pet peeve, and I have too much emotional charge at this point as it detracts me every time I read something on magick that is totally plausible and they “justify it” by mentioning quantum physics.

Quantum physics is one of the “current” tool boxes used for the study of subatomic partials because Newtonian physics fails terribly at it.

At this point Quantum theory will never become “law” it is already known to be wrong. But it is still one of the best tool boxes they have for this area of study.

The only three cool thing in Quantum that people can relate to magick

1. The possibility to be in multiple places at once. (a photon will traverse every possible solution of a maze at once to get to the other side)
2. Instant effect (beyond the speed of light). Partials will change instantly when their twin is changed.
3. The discovery that the observer can effect the results.

Now those three things are huge, but they are not the things usually brought up when connecting Magick and Science.

Science is now on the cusp of being able to create a pocket universe (a mini big bang so to speak), instead I am reading how opening my chakras or third eye will let me see or feel energy that is in different quantum dimensions (paraphrasing but I would not be surprised to see that in print).

The only good approaches to Science and Magick that come to mind are Peter Carroll’s and William A . Tiller. Carroll on the pure theory side does not make claims of anything justifying anything. William A Tiller takes a purely scientific approach to proving the most minute existence of magickal phenomena.

His books are not for the feint of heart, but they are what is needed to get a firmer grasp on the whys of Magick.

Do we need the whys? No not really, but we do if we want to use science to prove it exists.

Body and mind control is now accepted by the scientific community, why, because people can repeatedly do things like go to only theta waves at will (mental equivalent of stopping the heart) and then come back out, or show the full spectrum of brain waves at once. Or stopping the heart or slowing it down to almost stopping it.

What has that done? It has given medical researchers new tools, and added a ton of funding to the research of long term effects of specific meditations. It has opened holistic medical schools where traditional and non traditional treatments are taught and researched ultimately providing better care.

Meanwhile on the magickal side of the fence you have idiots talking about science in an uneducated way…the least science is going to do is the same.

I read this through a couple of times and really--it's so poorly written that I can't figure out what you are trying to say, and I'm really trying.

Using science catch phrases to further your agenda or personal beliefs when you understand nothing of the science you are talking about. I could go into global warming, but that would make this alot longer.

Ok--so that is your pet peeve, I get that. Sort of.

Yes it does irritate me a bit when people use science to support... anything. Science is nothing more or less than a religion, or beliefs system. If you keep that in mind you will understand better why people quote its tenets so much, even when those tenets are poorly understood. I mean--how can the average person "prove" anything about particle theory? It has to be grasped in a conceptual manner if it is to be understood at all.

Yeah, it irritates me when people say that there is sin because "the devil tricked Eve into eating an apple".

People say all kinds of crazy shit, don't they? xoxo ;)