Is There More To The Goetia Thanmeets The Eye Options

Greetings, I'm asking fo opinions/views on the goetia as wriiten and used to obtain physical manifestation.

I have for the past few months gathered the tools, everything is complete. Followed the class lessons, and the text in the book( I have Petersons book and the Crowly/mathers version), experimenting with the procedure. I began conjuring three months ago, and I must say I have had no noticeable results. I use the proper metals for the seals etc experimented with the conjurations using different versions etc, with nothing showing even partial results.

I have used things like dittany of crete for manifestaion aswell. My question really is, it would seem the goetia doesn't work as written for physical manifestation, so is there more to the goetia than meets the eye? and am I missing something? I have a feeling there are more subtle aspects to this system, which are not written down. I would like to ask others who have had success with this system for their views and opinions, and what they believe results in thier success.

Thanks Loki

I did not read every reply in this thread all the way through, so if this has already been addressed, I apologize.

Stepping outside the goeta for a moment: What type(s) of magic were you doing prior to starting with the keys? If you were practicing magic before, what type of magic gave you the best results? Would you categorize yourself as a beginner at magic, or have you been at it for awhile now?

And: Have you ever witnessed or experienced a magical effect created by another person? xoxoxo