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post Nov 16 2007, 07:18 PM
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Does psi energy act as an independent particle or energy on its own? Well, let us cover the basics first. The current picture of physics is Modern Physics. It pretty much says that energy and matter are actually the same stuff. There is no evidence to support a universal, cosmic medium. Light was found to be composed of photons. The fields are composed of of discrete particles called quanta. Gravity is now regarded in terms of the curvature of a space instead of a force field.

Matter is composed of molecules. Molecules composed of atoms. Atoms composed of nuceli and electrons. Nuceli are composed of protons and neutrons. Protons and neutrons are composed of things called quarks. You have three different types of quarks and leptons. U, D, and E. A proton equals uud. A neutron equals udd.

Quantum Mechanics provides a basis for for a mind matter connection. This comes from the fact that the act of observation interferes with what is being observed. This is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. This leads to the theory of reality being controlled by consciousness. The mind and consciousness are not independent of matter. All that being said, there has been no evidence of a separate particle called "psi"

There are normally two main views on "psi" energy, One is that it is energy that is ambient in "nature" itself and that the consciousness interacts with this energy or particle and thats what causes the things that happen. Well, what is the medium. Under that premise, the mind is capable of affecting things on its own, without the use psi. If that was the case, why not cut out the middle man, altogether. Another view is that "psi" energy is a separate energy on its own that the body creates. Still, there has been no evidence to support this. The Action Potential that fires within the neurons of the brain is created through the charges from the sodium and potassium pumps within the neuron. The entire brain and nervous system is created from a network of these neurons generating electric impulses that release neurotransmitters. This, in itself, creates an EM field around the brain, which has been shown to be able to influence the firing of certain neurons. So it is more than likely that the "psi" people refer to could be the left overs or the field from natural processes of the nervous system and the brain. Not only that, the mind can act on microscopic systems on its own. The only problem is when does something cross over from the microscopic world onto the macroscopic. The consciousness has been shown to play apart in the collapsing of waves.

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If now we introduce a device that will amplify the microstate a to produce some state A of the macroworld, and amplify microstate b to produce a state B that is macroscopically different from A, then this same device will amplify the superposition of a and b to produce a corresponding superposition of the macroscopically distinct states A and B. Moreover, if we continue to interpret the concept of superposition at the macrolevel in the same way that we do at the microlevel, we are apparently forced to conclude that the relevant part of the macroscopic world does not realize a definite macroscopic state until it is observed! In other words the cat can be both dead and alive at the same time before we look at it.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/856


What are your thoughts on this?

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post Nov 16 2007, 09:40 PM
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A term used to demarcate processes or causation associated with cognitive or physiological activity that fall outside of conventional scientific boundaries.
I'd say there's bucket loads of different energies and mechanisms that would fall into Psi categorization, simply because our current sciences have difficulty recognizing anything that's not reproducible in a lab. Lab rats are capable of choosing a correct destination in their maze that was double-blind picked after they'd traveled it, so it's definitely not just limited to humans.

The main problem with trying to figure out the world is that we're an integral part of it. It's impossible to remove ourselves from the picture when studying something, for there'd be no one to do the studying. Thus, even the results of an impartial machine could be tampered with, by simply viewing the information it had collected.

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