Psi Energy... Does It Exist? Options

Does psi energy act as an independent particle or energy on its own? Well, let us cover the basics first. The current picture of physics is Modern Physics. It pretty much says that energy and matter are actually the same stuff. There is no evidence to support a universal, cosmic medium. Light was found to be composed of photons. The fields are composed of of discrete particles called quanta. Gravity is now regarded in terms of the curvature of a space instead of a force field.

Matter is composed of molecules. Molecules composed of atoms. Atoms composed of nuceli and electrons. Nuceli are composed of protons and neutrons. Protons and neutrons are composed of things called quarks. You have three different types of quarks and leptons. U, D, and E. A proton equals uud. A neutron equals udd.

Quantum Mechanics provides a basis for for a mind matter connection. This comes from the fact that the act of observation interferes with what is being observed. This is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. This leads to the theory of reality being controlled by consciousness. The mind and consciousness are not independent of matter. All that being said, there has been no evidence of a separate particle called "psi"

There are normally two main views on "psi" energy, One is that it is energy that is ambient in "nature" itself and that the consciousness interacts with this energy or particle and thats what causes the things that happen. Well, what is the medium. Under that premise, the mind is capable of affecting things on its own, without the use psi. If that was the case, why not cut out the middle man, altogether. Another view is that "psi" energy is a separate energy on its own that the body creates. Still, there has been no evidence to support this. The Action Potential that fires within the neurons of the brain is created through the charges from the sodium and potassium pumps within the neuron. The entire brain and nervous system is created from a network of these neurons generating electric impulses that release neurotransmitters. This, in itself, creates an EM field around the brain, which has been shown to be able to influence the firing of certain neurons. So it is more than likely that the "psi" people refer to could be the left overs or the field from natural processes of the nervous system and the brain. Not only that, the mind can act on microscopic systems on its own. The only problem is when does something cross over from the microscopic world onto the macroscopic. The consciousness has been shown to play apart in the collapsing of waves.

If now we introduce a device that will amplify the microstate a to produce some state A of the macroworld, and amplify microstate b to produce a state B that is macroscopically different from A, then this same device will amplify the superposition of a and b to produce a corresponding superposition of the macroscopically distinct states A and B. Moreover, if we continue to interpret the concept of superposition at the macrolevel in the same way that we do at the microlevel, we are apparently forced to conclude that the relevant part of the macroscopic world does not realize a definite macroscopic state until it is observed! In other words the cat can be both dead and alive at the same time before we look at it.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/856


What are your thoughts on this?

This post has been edited by telempath: Nov 16 2007, 07:22 PM

Hmmm, ultimately I think it is energy on levels we do not yet know about. Gravity is still fleeting, just in the last few years with M-theory, it has been totally reanalyzed.

However is there a “psi” energy? No I do not believe so. I believe we ourselves are made up of many different types of energy and with the right focus we tap into energy that allows us to do particular endeavors.

What I am saying is there is no one “PSI” energy type but a collection of energy types that are part of us and we can use to manipulate for a goal. I am positive that over time these energies will be able to be measured.

Quantum mechanics has trouble once it goes into the study of complex systems (too many variables that can not be accounted for yet).
It is likely going to take a new system, a new cosmology or whatever one wants to call it, in order to study complex system interaction.
We are far from it currently, but that does not mean that in a few years there will not be any major breakthroughs. But like DNA and the genome project, it will take years before it is applicable to the world we live in.


One issue I have is my experience does not coincide with my intellectual outlook on the subject. With no theory of time travel or future to past communication, premonition should not be possible. Yet, I have lived it on freaky multi-hour levels even after recounting to another that I was in the midst of it and a few events I knew where going to happen and we would observe in the next few hours.

I did not take an active approach to changing anything, I kind of wish I did, and I am kind of glad I did not, as it confirmed the incredible to me.

I do not believe we are just complex bio-chemical-electrical robots that our existence ends when our body ceases to exist.

So I guess my answer to the question is, there is no “PSI” energy, just energies that we learn to engage that are already around. And I am willing to be absolutely wrong.