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post Nov 18 2007, 07:58 AM
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I fail to see the connection between psionics and chakras. You can say that I am a very gifted psion and I do no work with any type of chakras what so ever. Someone explain to me the link. I want to hear other's thoughts on this.

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post Nov 18 2007, 10:07 AM
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Like I mentioned on another thread, any kind of energy movement in your physical or subtle bodies involves the chakras. Period. it is what they are for, moving energy, storing, and transforming energy. Even physical energy - I am utilizing chakras right now in order to move my body, interpret what I am reading, and formulate a response. I'm using my solar plexus, root, throat, and third eye. On occasion I might use my crown if I am channeling some kind of higher intuition.

I am one who believes that psionics is just a form of energy work. And to me, telepathy, telekinesis, empathy, etc., all comes down to energetic states and the manipulation thereof. I think that people are often unaware of the energy they use to do things, especially if they are naturally gifted with talents - not just psionic or magickal, but any talent in general - because it comes so easy for them it doesn't warrant too much thinking about.

Like in the power chakra thread, you mentioned that you don't have to do any third eye opening/exercise, and I suspect you are not especially aware of any particular sensation around that area? It is probably just naturally in harmony with other centers in your system. You might imagine your body made up of vibrations. A sea of vibration. You chakras are the centers of vibration that cause that sea to vibrate in the first place. They are the pathway that the real you, the energetic being pulling all of the strings, uses to interact with the physical body, to make it alive and doing things, percieving things, thinking things, etc. There are many layers to the subtle body, and each layer uses these energy centers to communicate and utilize the ones below it.

So, it is not a given that you might sense these individual energy centers in your body 'accidentally' that is, without looking for them, even if you didn't know about chakras. I didn't when I first discovered my heart chakra, I just had an experience that caused it some trauma, and my attention was drawn to it, and then eventually to similar kinds of feelings in other places. It wasn't until years later that I learned you could interact with those feelings, and I'm a natural energy worker - I do it like breathing, and I know now which chakras I use to accomplish which tasks, but I wasn't initially aware that I was doing anything other than moving energy just by doing it.

It didn't take a great deal of analysis for me to learn technique, when it came to energy work, but even though I developed my technique to a very fine degree, I didn't realize my chakras played a role. When i became aware of them, and began to develope my consciousness of them, then I understood because I could see and feel way they interacted when i did different kinds of energy work. My techniques all amounted to utilizing different combinations of chakras, even though I wasn't doing it on purpose.

Because that is the nature of the chakras. You could say that, in as much as all energy might as well be considered intentional energy, as all energy does some kind of work, chakras regulate various kinds of intentional energy. All other intentional energies are made of combinations of these basic seven energies (more in other systems, representing, i believe, intentions few people ever utilize).

The root regulates the intention to be, to persist, to live. The second regulates the intention to acquire, satiate, have. The third regulates the intention to defend, sustain individuality, be self-sufficient. The fourth regulates the intention to be connected, to others, to oneself, which translates roughly as love, though our usage of the word is pale in comparison to the actual force itself. The fifth regulates the intention to express, communicate, move in the world in any way. The sixth (third eye) regulates the intention to percieve, analyze, interpret, utilize the mental body. The seventh regulates the intention to connect and communicate with higher consciousness.

That is a very rough list. The intentions themselves are difficult to accurately express in words, and to evidence that almost every piece of literature you read will use a different set that are recognizably related to one another. The intentions themselves are wordless, and we know most 'intentions' as combinations of them.

The point is, all intentions must be regulated through the chakras. You can effectively cripple a psion by shutting down their throat chakra, and/or third eye. The throat would be the 'sneaky way' while the third eye is the more obvious and 'blunt' way. That is, assuming that they are unaware of their higher subtle bodies and are unable to utilize them. That, or to close the center on a level higher than they can consciously act from.

Argue as you will, there is plenty more to say on the subject.

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QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Nov 18 2007, 11:07 AM) *
Like I mentioned on another thread, any kind of energy movement in your physical or subtle bodies involves the chakras. Period. it is what they are for, moving energy, storing, and transforming energy. Even physical energy - I am utilizing chakras right now in order to move my body, interpret what I am reading, and formulate a response. I'm using my solar plexus, root, throat, and third eye. On occasion I might use my crown if I am channeling some kind of higher intuition.


I thought that the desire to move triggered the neurons in the brain to send an electrochemical message to the central nervous system that branched off into the perphial nervous system which triggered the muscles and tendons to contract... I also thought that the ability to understand and comprehend what is being said came from the various parts of the brain interacting... The energy that powers these interactions is not mystical in nature. It comes from the stucture of a neuron. Depending on the purpose, the sodium potassium ion pumps become more negatively charged (resting potential) or positively charged (action potential). This charge travels through the soma or cell body of the neuron, through the axon, through the dendrites, through the termini, and either hits a termini button that releases neurotransmitters into a synaptic gap or passes through the dendrite of another cell till it reaches its destination. Smaller forms of energy are gathered through breathing. Cellular respiration gets the mitochrondia to produce energy which powers the cells and don't forget the breakdown of various molecules in food for energy.



QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Nov 18 2007, 11:07 AM) *
Because that is the nature of the chakras. You could say that, in as much as all energy might as well be considered intentional energy, as all energy does some kind of work, chakras regulate various kinds of intentional energy. All other intentional energies are made of combinations of these basic seven energies (more in other systems, representing, i believe, intentions few people ever utilize).

The root regulates the intention to be, to persist, to live. The second regulates the intention to acquire, satiate, have. The third regulates the intention to defend, sustain individuality, be self-sufficient. The fourth regulates the intention to be connected, to others, to oneself, which translates roughly as love, though our usage of the word is pale in comparison to the actual force itself. The fifth regulates the intention to express, communicate, move in the world in any way. The sixth (third eye) regulates the intention to percieve, analyze, interpret, utilize the mental body. The seventh regulates the intention to connect and communicate with higher consciousness.

That is a very rough list. The intentions themselves are difficult to accurately express in words, and to evidence that almost every piece of literature you read will use a different set that are recognizably related to one another. The intentions themselves are wordless, and we know most 'intentions' as combinations of them.

The point is, all intentions must be regulated through the chakras. You can effectively cripple a psion by shutting down their throat chakra, and/or third eye. The throat would be the 'sneaky way' while the third eye is the more obvious and 'blunt' way. That is, assuming that they are unaware of their higher subtle bodies and are unable to utilize them. That, or to close the center on a level higher than they can consciously act from.


These are esoteric/metaphysical archetypes that differ based upon subjective experience and thought. In addition to that, I noticed that you are working with simply the Kudolini system. In my studies in Hapkido and Akido, we were taught a bigger scope of this, not to mention, if you go with that complete system, there are 72,000 minor nadis and 24 major ones... Anyways, there is no proof that says anything about there being mystical energy or subtle bodies. A lot of people use that word incorrectly, too. Energy is the capacity to do work. ΔE = W , ΔE = W + Q, ΔE = W + Q + E, Epi + Eki = EpF + EkF .

The affect could be psychosomatic, too. You create the affects yourself. Let us use the paradigm of the subtle body. How are the functions of each energy processing unit assigned. It seems to be rooted in spirituality. Let us say that there are subtle bodies that branch up there. They are not manifest on this plane of reality. They are out of sync, therefore, their affect on this plane would not be that much. I still don't understand where the third eye and throat chakras thing comes with psions. The affects and the power all come from the mind and maybe the nervous system. It is the brain, not the subtle body.

But, I would like to hear some more of your thoughts on the matter.

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