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post Jul 17 2007, 05:52 PM
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I was reading Dion Fortune´s "Psychic Self-Defence" in which came a paragraph that caught my particular attention, followed by a brief experience of hers. The paragraph reads as follows:

"There is a very curious aspect of the occult field concerning which something must be said in the present
pages, though not a great deal can be revealed, and, to be frank, I do not know a great deal about it
myself, but only such aspects as I have actually come across. I have always heard it called the Occult
Police; others may know it by different names but I believe it to be a very real and concrete thing, though
its organisation is not upon the physical plane, nor, so far as I know, are its mundane activities gathered
up into any single pair of hands. I have crossed its trail upon a number of occasions, and played my part
in its activities, and I have talked with others who have also been concerned in it, and they have always
said as I do, that it is the inner voice and circumstances alone that direct our activities when we
co-operate with this mysterious organisation."

It caught my attention because I have heard of the Occult Police but always (mis) took it for a joke. Oh dont tell anyone or ill be in trouble with the occult police and such.
Then Dion Fortune came into my life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I also read, in the same book, that there are certain lodges called Hunting Lodges in which the purpose of the group is to stop the wrong doings of Black Lodges and that the Hunting Lodges have some sort of link or direct connection to the Occult Police.

So I was wondering, is there such a thing as "Occult Police"? What are your experiences with this organization if any? or just jot down your opinion about them.

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post Nov 22 2007, 01:56 AM
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If there are Occult Police, they are not in the normal concept of what we think of as police. It is not “evil” that they are after or what we would think of as abuses of power it is something else.

On the flip side I have witnessed people who do not like each other getting together to stop someone who is abusing their power. It could be that “the occult police” where the force behind this. However, I think it was people looking to their own self-interest to a large degree.

There are also groups that specialize in policing “their own” but I find theses people mostly idiotic and somewhat delusional. Kind hearted but delusional…then again who am I to say.

All I know is that in my experience, serious abuses of power where not put down by a special group, just a concerned group helping out a friend of one of them. And it was not to put an end to other abuses, just those that concerned one party, and a telling that it will not be one person that comes after her, but a group if it comes down to it.


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post Nov 22 2007, 07:52 PM
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Made me think of Twin Peaks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The Bookhouse Boys and the Black Lodge. "The owls are not always what they seem"
It sounds like what Dion is saying is that there is a kind of astral egregore or conglomerate of egregoric beings responsible for resisting the forces of black magick, "evil" forces, and occult "wrongdoings". This egregore can then be tapped into consciously or unconsciously when one is pitted against these sorts of things. That's my interpretation anyway.
For anyone, who has seen Twin Peaks, remember the Giant? I haven't seen the whole series yet, but from what I've seen the Giant might be considered a kind of occult police, helping Agent Cooper.
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Occult Police - hocum pocum? I don't think so. Dion Fortune is not the only writer to have alluded to the Occult Police. W E Butler in his posthumously published book "Lords of Light" ( a collection of his lectures to "The Ibis Fraternity") mentions a little of the concept in a lecture on "The Withdrawn Order". The Withdrawn Order is a misleading label given to "a body" that functions behind a number of modern esoteric groups, particularly the Society of the Inner Light and a number of key groups that have branched off from it. Page 128 of Lords of Light provides some insight into the roles of the Occult Police and, in particular the role of "Hunting Lodges". I would encourage anyone interested to beg, borrow, buy this great little collection of lectures.

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clips   Occult Police?   Jul 17 2007, 05:52 PM
TheScarletWhore   The "occult police" definately exist... ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:52 PM
Imperial Arts   I have read this book and recall the Occult Police...   Jul 17 2007, 07:42 PM
Uwe   I have read this book and recall the Occult Police...   Nov 21 2007, 11:18 PM
kouya   Occult police for humans is quite absurd as humans...   Jul 17 2007, 08:50 PM
SPoison   There may very well be a group that fancies themse...   Jul 17 2007, 09:22 PM
clips   Yes, that is what i also think. I read a while b...   Jul 17 2007, 09:59 PM
Slayden   Three may keep a secret... if two of them are dead...   Jul 20 2007, 02:39 AM
bym   Greetings! To SPoison: Dion Fortune (aka Viole...   Jul 20 2007, 11:14 AM
TheScarletWhore   I didn't mean to say that there is an actual g...   Jul 20 2007, 11:15 AM
bym   The 'Occult Police' hinted at by Fortune s...   Jul 20 2007, 05:27 PM
TheScarletWhore   The 'Occult Police' hinted at by Fortune s...   Jul 20 2007, 07:09 PM
Imperial Arts   Funny how an Occult Police force could fail to sto...   Jul 20 2007, 07:36 PM
SacredOak   Funny how an Occult Police force could fail to sto...   Dec 1 2007, 03:54 PM
Daathvader   Funny how an Occult Police force could fail to sto...   Dec 12 2007, 12:12 PM
Imperial Arts   Again, without placing any value judgments on thei...   Dec 13 2007, 02:30 AM
Daathvader   I agree with the substance of what you are saying,...   Dec 13 2007, 08:26 AM
Petrus   [color=#3333FF]Funny how an Occult Police force c...   Sep 29 2008, 04:12 PM
CosmicInferno   this may be of interest to some in relation to ...   Aug 3 2007, 09:06 PM
4symbols   the phenomenon of occult police includes three phe...   Aug 17 2007, 01:52 AM
Acid09   Weren't there several episodes of charmed wher...   Dec 13 2007, 05:00 PM
Petrus   These guys sound like a bunch of nazis and of the...   Sep 29 2008, 04:25 PM
The Sorceress   "YOU THERE! DROP THAT ATHAME AND PUT YOU...   Dec 18 2007, 02:12 AM
Darkmage   Haha, nice. ;) Along with: Move along. There is n...   Dec 18 2007, 02:51 AM
al_zaine   You have the right to do what thou wilt, anything ...   May 22 2008, 07:54 AM
esoterica   quick, empty your mind! - its the psychic po-p...   May 23 2008, 06:33 AM
Darkmage   Heh! "No, officer! I'm just hol...   May 23 2008, 07:13 AM
Lucifer   My experience with the "occult police" h...   Sep 29 2008, 06:15 AM
Krell   I believe that there are Occult Police, to the poi...   Sep 29 2008, 08:32 AM
Praxis   The conceit of their being Occult Police that are ...   Nov 30 2008, 09:12 PM

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