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Our Lord Jesus Christ, Lord or Man?

Kinjo	Jan 29 2006, 11:15 AM Post #1
Bu Pun Su Posts: 22 Age: N/A Gender: Male From: Paris van Java Reputation: none	During my internet years, I found info like Jesus married Maria Magdalena, went to India and studied there, that he did not die on the cross. I'm not sure what to believe in. Yesterday, I finished reading Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code and in it I again read what I've found + Sarah, Jesus's daughter and how Constantine used the "perverted" new testament to make a god out of Jesus to win the Catholic over the Pagan. Altought the book has errors, it is still an interesting read. What is your opinion on this? Jesus, the Lord or -just- a man? -------------------- Complete Newbie He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

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Imoe	Nov 28 2007, 11:17 AM Post #2
Initiate Posts: 9 Age: N/A Gender: Male Reputation: none	According to muslim tradition, Jesus or Hazrat Isa ( peace be uppon him) is 'Kalamullah'. He is the manifestation of the Word of God ( Allah SWT). Allah created the Universe and everything in en out of it by using the word 'Kum' which closely translated means 'be' or 'become'. Allah SWT can create anything He wants, how He wants, where He wants etc. So as a sign of His greatness He created Hazrat Isa AS without a father. In the Qur'an a whole Sura is dedicated to Hazrat Isa AS and his mother Maryam ( Maria) RA, it is called Sura Maryam. According to Islam Hazrat Isa AS lives, he hasn't taste death, yet. He isn't crucified. Allah SWT saved him by taking him ( physical and spiritual...body and soul) up to the first heaven. Hazrat Isa AS will decent from this heaven to help Imam Mahdi RA in his fight against the Dajjal. Hazrat Isa AS is human, not God. But we can not say he is just like us, because 1) his creation is a miracle if we look at the way he is created 2) he is a great Prophet 3) he is the Messias 4) he carries the light of Muhammed ( nur-e-muhammed) in his soul, like all the great Prophets 5) he will return ( no re-incarnation, but decent from the sky) 6) he is a Sign of Allah SWT and many more... These are some of the things a remember, and this is what I believe...I have great respect and love for Hazrat Isa AS ( Jesus) and his mother Maryam AS. Muslim are being obligated to show love and respect to all Prophets of Allah and to His whole creation! I have seen some documentaries on NGC and Discovery Channel about Jesus ( peace be uppon him), for example about the DaVinci code. It's interesting. But I don't believe it. It's is written in the Qur'an that Hazrat Isa AS and his mother Maryam RA are those historical figures which will be discussed about by people of all times. And this is true. God Bless! Mo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap.gif)

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Kinjo Our Lord Jesus Christ Jan 29 2006, 11:15 AM

Sabazel an enlightent soul who decided to come back as a m... Jan 29 2006, 12:08 PM

A_Smoking_Fox dan browns book may be good, but it is still a fic... Jan 29 2006, 12:34 PM

A_Smoking_Fox my thoughts on the man. A misudnerstood sage, his... Jan 29 2006, 12:40 PM

alia I would rather side with the "just a man... Jan 29 2006, 03:25 PM

A_Smoking_Fox sure, Jesuz was just a man. buddha was just a man... Jan 30 2006, 03:41 PM

Rakesh What about the heretic theology of Johanites, bein... Jan 31 2006, 05:16 PM

esoterica a superb and concise description! brilliant... Feb 1 2006, 10:07 AM

pratyahara If you read the Old Testament, Jesus was the hebre... Feb 2 2006, 08:56 AM

Rakesh And yet, the Jews did not accept him as teh Messia... Feb 4 2006, 11:47 AM

pratyahara Are you saying Jesus took advantge of those waitin... Feb 4 2006, 01:37 PM

esoterica HA! I :wub: all of you so much! You m... Feb 5 2006, 10:26 AM

vredesbyrd he's a man. the christians created a story to... Mar 17 2006, 04:59 PM

ChaosCrowley he's a man. Ok I'll agree with that. I... Mar 18 2006, 06:13 AM

Praxis According to the Bible, Jesus was God incarnate as... Mar 18 2006, 06:44 AM

Animalia Jesus was real. Nov 25 2006, 08:24 PM

SangueDiNapoli Well, I think god had set a few messengers, and mi... Mar 18 2006, 09:37 AM

tyrian Seems to me the importance of 'Jesus as God... Nov 3 2006, 07:52 PM

DeathStalker I don't believe in jesus christ being anymore ... Nov 4 2006, 04:58 AM

Theft I've read info and seen shows disproving the i... Nov 7 2006, 02:00 PM

ClockKeeper I believe he did die on the cross, and that he did... Nov 8 2006, 06:08 PM

Radiant Star I could post several theories based on what -Heave... Nov 9 2006, 03:38 AM

Saul de Plume I'm going to go with a misunderdtood man. He w... Nov 23 2006, 01:37 AM

extinctionspasm Its interesting that one of jesus's most poign... Nov 23 2006, 03:20 AM

DeathStalker I also want to note that I revere Jesus Christ... ... Nov 24 2006, 01:40 AM

distillate I also want to note that I revere Jesus Christ... ... Nov 24 2006, 01:56 AM

DeathStalker What about Ghandi, a man with great charisma and w... Nov 24 2006, 04:15 AM

Jenfucius Looking from an esoteric occult perspective I beli... Nov 24 2006, 01:33 PM

Acid09 While the Da Vinci Code is good read and even not... Nov 24 2006, 06:45 PM

Acid09 Well I lost track of time and got an hour ahead of... Nov 24 2006, 07:37 PM

smasher666 Greetings to all. Jesus in the Bible over and o... Nov 24 2006, 08:00 PM

bym Would you possibly care to expand on that? One lin... Nov 25 2006, 09:23 PM

extinctionspasm Just to add some info to some previous posts. I al... Nov 26 2006, 05:07 AM

Zenofied Just to add some info to some previous posts. I a... Jul 20 2009, 08:56 AM

denk75 I believe Jesus was a man. The stories in the new ... Nov 27 2006, 02:49 PM

Gopendra Jesus Christ was and is the master of teachers,He ... Dec 29 2006, 04:16 AM

Aunt Clair During my internet years, I found info like Jesus ... Feb 7 2007, 08:43 AM

Rishi Bhrigu Salutations.There is reason to believe that Jesus ... Feb 7 2007, 12:03 PM

Enochian Balance. Jesus was a MAN sent to return balance to... Feb 8 2007, 04:08 PM

Care.Bear Dan Browns book IS fiction Jesus Christ is the Mes... Feb 9 2007, 11:19 PM

Imoe According to muslim tradition, Jesus or Hazrat Isa... Nov 28 2007, 11:17 AM

Ankhhape I am certain that Yeshua was not the Son of God an... Apr 19 2009, 08:34 PM

Xenomancer http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/thexenoman... Apr 22 2009, 07:14 PM

Djinn Shiva I don't think Jesus the Christ even existed in... Apr 22 2009, 07:16 PM

Umbra Euri Considering that there is little to no evidence of... May 10 2009, 09:35 PM

valkyrie ouch! i'm not even christian and that stun... May 11 2009, 10:55 AM

ShinobiBombay New guy here. I believe that Jesus is exactly who ... May 11 2009, 10:19 AM

Goibniu I haven't read Dan Brown's book, although ... Jul 21 2009, 12:41 AM

Aunt Clair I do not think we create the Godhead because we ha... Sep 11 2009, 05:24 AM

grim789 AHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT????????? Ok i am not 100% sure... Nov 8 2009, 12:07 AM

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grim789 Hey Grim, Although the Bible declares there is on... Nov 8 2009, 11:16 AM

Kath I am a former devout 'born again' christia... Nov 8 2009, 12:16 PM

Relikhan I think Jesus was a Magician... A man who was bles... Nov 22 2009, 02:15 AM

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