Thoughts On Teleporting, via astral projection Options

This hasn't really formulated in my mind enough yet to become a theory, so it's more just a jumble of thoughts I wanted to get some input on. I came across a few theories in various sources where people believed that someone could teleport physically with enough practice by astral projecting and then pulling their physical body to them. I also came across a website while researching something completely unrelated - that is, underground tunnels in cities that gangs used for fast escapes. I found a lot of information speculating the existance of some underground tunnels in San Fransisco, although they were never found after the gigantuous earthquake. As to the original point, theres a theory that the tunnels didnt physically exist, but there were secret rooms with certain metals and gemstones used for conducting enough energy to teleport out, using some magical laws of chinese alchemy. Site is here if you want to read the less scattered summary:
http://www.sfgate.com/offbeat/city.html
ANYWAY, I'm just wondering if anyone thinks this would be possible, or the theory of summoning your body to you with astral projection has any possibilities. Also, I know a lot of people agree with the concept of astrally travelling in time on the spiritual plane. If one's able to teleport through astral projection, in theory it would also be possible to pull your body through time, therefore time travelling physically. Pretty sketchorific stuff. Not sure what my opinions are on any of this, but any others are welcome. Thanks

PS - Not sure if this belongs in this forum, so move if it should be elsewhere

One interesting thought I had about astral projection is, the amount of information that composes a thought is exceedingly small. Thoughts are not made of neurons, or electrons, or membrane differentials, but rather the vague synergistic variations in the position of said electrons chemicals and such. To quantify a thought in terms of joules you would quickly go below the minimum amount of energy that can exist without running into spooky quantum effects, effectively it'd be a photon redshifted so far into nothingness we couldn't even detect its energy. The vast majority of our brains and bodies is composed of "wasted" information, most of it just bulking us up and setting the stage for thinking, the barest, tiniest tiny minimum fraction of that our actual thoughts. So how much energy would it take to teleport a thought? How big a wormhole would there need to be for a thought to fit through?

Of course we can't teleport our thoughts, since otherwise you could put your thoughts into my brain without actually talking to me. But if we could, that's telepathy right there. Maybe something prevents us...? Maybe even the tiniest amounts of information cannot teleport?

One interesting thought I had about astral projection is, the amount of information that composes a thought is exceedingly small. Thoughts are not made of neurons, or electrons, or membrane differentials, but rather the vague synergistic variations in the position of said electrons chemicals and such. To quantify a thought in terms of joules you would quickly go below the minimum amount of energy that can exist without running into spooky quantum effects, effectively it'd be a photon redshifted so far into nothingness we couldn't even detect its energy. The vast majority of our brains and bodies is composed of "wasted" information, most of it just bulking us up and setting the stage for thinking, the barest, tiniest tiny minimum fraction of that our actual thoughts. So how much energy would it take to teleport a thought? How big a wormhole would there need to be for a thought to fit through?

That makes no sense... Neurons are brain cells, so therefore, they would not be thoughts, of course. The charge that flows through the neurons to create what is called the Action Potential comes from sodium and potassium ion pumps within the soma of the neuron. This generates a charge which flows through the neuron and releases chemicals. The charge is somewhat electric in itself. That is pretty much a flow of electrons or ions (I can not really remember), therefore, a thought is composed of types of electrons. Furthermore, thoughts normally use various different parts of the brain at the same time, which activates such and such part. This leads to an abundance of activity. The brain is a bee hive of activity. It is always going round and round. Check EEG scans or other types of brain scans.

You are talking about the instantaneous transmission of something. That is locality and non locality, which has not or can not be proven to exist at this time (we lack the technology). That is a common theme that is rooted in sci fi.

You actually have various types of neurons. One is called the Glial cell.

Glial cells provide support and protection for neurons, the other main type of cell in the nervous system. They are thus known as the "glue" of the nervous system. The four main functions of glial cells are to surround neurons and hold them in place, to supply nutrients and oxygen to neurons, to insulate one neuron from another, and to destroy pathogens and remove dead neurons.

They remove the "wasted information" from the nervous system and body... I am not sure what you mean besides that. Most of human neurology and physiology is devoted to living not thinking. The bulk of the nervous system is dedicated to keeping the body running, relaying information from the enviorment, and so on and so forth.

What you said made no sense. It has been observed that when electrons reach a certain point they can not measured anymore and they seem to change location, but they do not know if it is because it is too small to be measured or if it teleports. Not enough evidence.

You are talking about the instantaneous transmission of something. That is locality and non locality, which has not or can not be proven to exist at this time (we lack the technology). That is a common theme that is rooted in sci fi.

Yeah I know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I wish it would exist for at least little things like thoughts though. Instantaneous transmission is instantaneous communication.

I am not sure what you mean besides that.

Well, how about an example. In 4 gigabytes, there is approximately 35 units of Shannon entropy. Assuming that's equivalent to physical entropy (a hotly debated subject among physicists I'm pretty sure), that means destroying 4 gigabytes of information gives about enough energy to melt 4.8e-22 moles of water at 0 degrees Celsius, melting a whopping 290 water molecules. I can't say a thought can be captured in 4 gigabytes, but for instance all of Wikipedia would fit in 5.49 gigabytes. But each neuron is made of billions of atoms, so much more than 290 it boggles the mind. So most of those atoms aren't actually part of the thought; they set up the environment in which the thought appears as a small part of that environment.

It's like a computer professor told me once: CPUs are highly efficient heaters, that occasionally, rarely produce a computer instruction or two.

What you said made no sense. It has been observed that when electrons reach a certain point they can not measured anymore and they seem to change location, but they do not know if it is because it is too small to be measured or if it teleports. Not enough evidence.

I don't see how what I say makes no sense. But then I wouldn't be able to see that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/juggle.gif)

Electron tunneling isn't so much teleportation as it is pushing the lower bounds of what we consider to be position in space. You can't pin down your exact location, since once you try to do it on the level of an electron things get fuzzy and jiggy, and the math works out that sometimes the electron is on the other side of a wall without actually having an opening in that wall. So that means if you make your wires toooo small and close together, electrons will tunnel between 'em, even if the insulation between the wires doesn't have any holes.

It sounds like you knew that, but I just want to make sure nobody's confused on this issue. Just remember the next time you're leaning against a wall that's 4 nanometers thick, chances are some of your electrons are occasionally on the other side of the wall just a teeny tiny bit. It's so thin, it becomes hard to say whether something in contact with it is on one side or the other. Teleportation is a bit different than that, since it involves travelling much farther than 4 nanometers.

Yeah I know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I wish it would exist for at least little things like thoughts though. Instantaneous transmission is instantaneous communication.

Well, how about an example. In 4 gigabytes, there is approximately 35 units of Shannon entropy. Assuming that's equivalent to physical entropy (a hotly debated subject among physicists I'm pretty sure), that means destroying 4 gigabytes of information gives about enough energy to melt 4.8e-22 moles of water at 0 degrees Celsius, melting a whopping 290 water molecules. I can't say a thought can be captured in 4 gigabytes, but for instance all of Wikipedia would fit in 5.49 gigabytes. But each neuron is made of billions of atoms, so much more than 290 it boggles the mind. So most of those atoms aren't actually part of the thought; they set up the environment in which the thought appears as a small part of that environment.

An electron is not an atom. It is a sub atomic particle. A neuron is just a cell. Cells are made up of carbon molecules and atoms and everyone should know that those are alot of atoms to create one cell. I am trying to find the connection between the composition of a neuron in terms of atoms, the treatment of electrons as whole atoms, and the brain and/or a computer acting as a heater in relation to teleportation. You are talking about the energy produced by the brain and a thought. One thought is accompanied by another and works with various parts of the cerebral cortex all at the same time.

Electron tunneling isn't so much teleportation as it is pushing the lower bounds of what we consider to be position in space. You can't pin down your exact location, since once you try to do it on the level of an electron things get fuzzy and jiggy, and the math works out that sometimes the electron is on the other side of a wall without actually having an opening in that wall. So that means if you make your wires toooo small and close together, electrons will tunnel between 'em, even if the insulation between the wires doesn't have any holes.

It sounds like you knew that, but I just want to make sure nobody's confused on this issue. Just remember the next time you're leaning against a wall that's 4 nanometers thick, chances are some of your electrons are occasionally on the other side of the wall just a teeny tiny bit. It's so thin, it becomes hard to say whether something in contact with it is on one side or the other. Teleportation is a bit different than that, since it involves travelling much farther than 4 nanometers.

You are going into quantum mechanics here and the inability to accurately measure a sub atmoic particle (that starts going into the Uncertainty areas). Everything else besides the fact that you can not really pin point there location is also inaccurate and I fail to see the connection to teleportation.