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sleepyman
post May 7 2005, 05:16 PM
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I recently performed two rituals to evoke a goetic spirit "Fornues" and my both atempts failed. Anybody know what's the reason; here's what I did. I began with a LBRP ritual and then start my conjurations. I did the 1st conjuration couple times nothing appeared, so I start reciting the second one, it didn't work either. The only thing I didn't do is "the bornless ritual". If anybody know the reason my conjuration isn't working, please let me know.....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/help.gif)
Your help would be greatly appreciated.....

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post May 10 2005, 06:07 AM
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Greetings Sleepyman!
I suggested Vassago for a number of reasons...
1/ he/she/it is of a relatively benign nature and thus is more responsive in that there are alternate conjurations that can be used outside of those of the Goetia to summon him.
2/ Seeing as you are new to this, using Vassago will give you more confidence with the eade of his evocation.
3/ You were using a scrying mirror to initially evoke into (a wise beginning) and Vassago responds well to the scrying mirror....
4/ he/she/it shows you most things, it seems like the right place to start!

I follow the Solomonic path when dealing with the Goetia. I suggest that you pick up or download a copy of the non-Crowleyised version and look at it. You see, when I first started this path there weren't all the books and subsequent 'short cuts' that you(all) have today... I made my tools by learning and getting into blacksmithing, learned about incenses and herbs, made my own ritual vestments and learned alot of Hebrew and Latin! Granted, with some of the older formulae, you were more likely to bore the spirits into manifestation! LOL! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
As far as any particular conjuration that I've used, yes, I have found over the years that some are more efficacious than others...and no, I won't be misled into giving away all my secrets just to satisfy your itch! Work at it!
Now, I've asked you to perform a small test...have you done so? What were the results?


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sleepyman   Envocation of Forneus   May 7 2005, 05:16 PM
bym   Greetings sleepyman! I've been aquainted ...   May 7 2005, 08:38 PM
sleepyman   :wizard Bym! thanks for you reply... Yes , I ...   May 8 2005, 12:02 AM
Athena   My first question would be, did you wait long enou...   May 8 2005, 04:44 AM
Athena   Oh yeah, and if I were you, I'd listen to any ...   May 8 2005, 04:53 AM
sleepyman   Hey Athena, I waited for almost 2 hours. when I s...   May 8 2005, 01:16 PM
bym   Greetings! Hmmm....I've noticed that some ...   May 8 2005, 06:39 PM
sleepyman   Hey Bym, You told me in your last post to turn to...   May 9 2005, 11:38 PM
Athena   How long did you practice magic before you star...   May 11 2005, 01:48 AM
Athena   Another couple of quick questions, did you put the...   May 11 2005, 01:57 AM
sleepyman   Greeting Athena, I put the spirit sigil inside the...   May 11 2005, 08:15 PM
sleepyman   forgot to ask you, who is the writer of the origio...   May 11 2005, 08:25 PM
bym   Sleepyman- The Library has a pdf section with a su...   May 11 2005, 09:31 PM
sleepyman   Greeting Bym/Athena, Is it neccessary to have a K...   May 14 2005, 07:07 PM
sleepyman   Bym/Athena, I forgot to ask you, the king of sol...   May 15 2005, 06:07 PM
Athena   I'm thinking about a few answers to your quest...   May 19 2005, 09:12 AM
Athena   I just have to add this short rant... (not just t...   May 19 2005, 09:27 AM
| Kinjo   Exactly Athena. Magick was supposedly an art, wher...   May 19 2005, 09:37 AM
sleepyman   Athena, It's not about the money, I searched c...   May 19 2005, 12:32 PM
Athena   Dont worry Sleepyman, my rant was mostly about oth...   May 19 2005, 12:53 PM
sleepyman   Question for athena OR Bym, Athena/Bym. I recently...   May 27 2005, 04:45 PM
bym   Greetings Sleepyman! :D Hmmm well now....You ...   May 28 2005, 07:06 AM
mediocracy   As a chaote I see nothing wrong with using only...   May 28 2005, 07:14 AM
bym   Greetings Mediocracy! :) I can see your point...   May 28 2005, 07:39 AM
sleepyman   Bym! Man you telling me to evoke "Paimon...   May 28 2005, 12:52 PM
bym   Greetings! You are in a rut. I'm trying to...   May 28 2005, 01:19 PM
mediocracy   As an aside, I once invoked 'The Judderman...   May 28 2005, 02:20 PM
sleepyman   Greeting Bym! Man don't get frustrated on ...   May 28 2005, 02:39 PM
bym   LOL! I know....lugging that Bloody Book around...   May 28 2005, 02:41 PM
sleepyman   Greeting everyone, Did anybody ever evoketh the 46...   May 29 2005, 02:50 PM
sleepyman   Question for Bym / Athena, Just wondering which mo...   Jun 9 2005, 11:08 PM
sleepyman   Hey Buddies, I tried once more exactly as describe...   Jun 15 2005, 02:30 PM
bym   Greetings Sleepyman..... You are very lucky that t...   Jun 15 2005, 03:33 PM

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