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post Mar 8 2007, 01:15 AM
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This hasn't really formulated in my mind enough yet to become a theory, so it's more just a jumble of thoughts I wanted to get some input on. I came across a few theories in various sources where people believed that someone could teleport physically with enough practice by astral projecting and then pulling their physical body to them. I also came across a website while researching something completely unrelated - that is, underground tunnels in cities that gangs used for fast escapes. I found a lot of information speculating the existance of some underground tunnels in San Fransisco, although they were never found after the gigantuous earthquake. As to the original point, theres a theory that the tunnels didnt physically exist, but there were secret rooms with certain metals and gemstones used for conducting enough energy to teleport out, using some magical laws of chinese alchemy. Site is here if you want to read the less scattered summary:
http://www.sfgate.com/offbeat/city.html
ANYWAY, I'm just wondering if anyone thinks this would be possible, or the theory of summoning your body to you with astral projection has any possibilities. Also, I know a lot of people agree with the concept of astrally travelling in time on the spiritual plane. If one's able to teleport through astral projection, in theory it would also be possible to pull your body through time, therefore time travelling physically. Pretty sketchorific stuff. Not sure what my opinions are on any of this, but any others are welcome. Thanks

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post Dec 1 2007, 07:46 PM
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I think astral teleportation is something like traveling to the moon in an airplane. At first glance the idea seems plausible, just use this vehicle you use to move around in to move you somewhere else. Then you discover you don't have enough energy for that far a distance, the forces that worked well enough when you were close to the earth decrease the further you go away from it, and the pilot doesn't seem to be able to maintain consciousness after passing a certain height. Any of which can cause you to speedily return back to the earth.

And with astral projection, you and your target are not in the same 3D space; you're split into two parts, with one of them as active a sack of potatoes; and getting close enough to exert some sort of force on your physical body has a tendency to suck you back into it.
  • Moving your physical body from the astral, while astral projecting.
    What's the mechanism for the transfer of force from one space to another? What's there to prevent your body from being ripped apart in the process by an equal and opposite reaction on the physical? How do you move something physical to the astral?
  • Moving your body from the physical, to the astral, and back.
    How do you move any object to from one space into another? If your physical body is in the astral, how do you reconnect to the physical? If your physical body is in the astral, where is your astral body?
  • Using a computer to recreate your entire body in another location on an atomic level.
    Even if the machine were perfect, could its programmers be perfect too? How many copies could it make at a time? Would each clone suddenly cause another perspective to pop into your awareness or would each be as autonomous as yourself?
For me, this line of thinking represents the airplane-to-the-moon plan. The same issues for physical-astral transportation are evident in virtual-physical transportation. You can't move a virtual avatar using your physical body into physical space, and back to virtual space.
You could, however, render it into the physical and then scan it back into the virtual system. Taking a screenshot and then loading it onto you computer, for example; or printing a picture and then scanning that piece of ink covered paper. You can sculpt a model of something you saw in the astral, and you can form things in the astral like that on the physical. For something to exist, it has to have somewhere to exist.


Hmmm... I'd guess that if your body in physical space were destroyed, any bodies in a different space would still be there. I wonder what we are, if not spaces, materials, objects or bodies? We seem capable of creating or connecting to them.


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Thorn   Thoughts On Teleporting   Mar 8 2007, 01:15 AM
Acid09   Teleportation, imo, is just another word for trans...   Mar 19 2007, 04:07 PM
Helmut   I'm interested on what brought you to that co...   May 4 2007, 05:06 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   [font=Arial][color=#FF0000]I'm interested on ...   May 6 2007, 10:21 PM
telempath   If it were possible, I actually don't think it...   Nov 21 2007, 12:23 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   That has to do with morphgensis or the impact on v...   Dec 1 2007, 02:05 PM
telempath   You do believe in the astral, but not the template...   Dec 2 2007, 11:54 PM
Thorn   Well like I said, it wasn't a conclusion. More...   May 6 2007, 06:48 PM
Helmut   You bring up a very good point, but my assessment...   May 7 2007, 05:37 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   [font=Arial][color=#FF0000] Quantum theory does s...   May 7 2007, 05:52 PM
Helmut   I do agree with that. And as for the ice magick co...   May 7 2007, 06:13 PM
Acid09   I saw a show a while back that basically said if y...   Nov 23 2007, 07:52 PM
telempath   What I wonder is does a person who goes through on...   Nov 24 2007, 01:56 AM
Pandora   One interesting thought I had about astral project...   Nov 29 2007, 03:14 AM
telempath   One interesting thought I had about astral project...   Nov 29 2007, 06:29 AM
Pandora   You are talking about the instantaneous transmissi...   Dec 1 2007, 03:41 AM
telempath   Yeah I know. :( I wish it would exist for at least...   Dec 1 2007, 07:27 AM

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