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norrinradd
post Dec 22 2007, 01:24 AM
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What would you reccommend to draw a magical circle on a wooden floor that will wash off easy?????


will chalk do the trick?? or watercolors???

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post Dec 22 2007, 12:32 PM
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Dear 'norrinradd,'

From the Old System Magic perspective, I strongly advise against drawing your Circle of the Art on a wood or textile floor. It must be drawn upon the earth or a on concrete floor laid directly upon the earth. If an evocation to physical manifestation is conducted CORRECTLY, there will be a MAJOR difference of results between conducting it on the ground than on the upper floor of an appartment building. In the matter of degree, the spirit that will appear in the smoke of the Perfume of the Art will appear so real that you will think it is another physical being you are conversing with. The reason is because the earth stabalizes the whole operation and the instability of the spirit works against them (Ceremonial Magic and the Power of Evocation, Lisiewski, pp. 116-117). In this work it is all or nothing--if you cannot find a place to conduct your Magic--tough luck! This is NOT the new age where so-called 'magicians' do whatever they want or feel like based on their 'feelings.' You are dealing with very percise laws in REAL Magic that you CANNOT get around. If you try, you will not only fail miserably, but never and I repeat NEVER get the FULL results that you are after. If you don't believe me, then read the posts on this forum where many disgruntled individuals try to give reasons (veiled excuses) for their 'partial results of no significant consequence' or their failures.

As for the chalk: it must be white, and blessed by a Catholic priest. Don't be like the new agers here who will tell you, 'water colors will be alright dude, plus they'll look pretty' or 'just get like some used chalk or something.' No. You must go out and start to build your subjective synthesis and add the EFFICACY to your work. By performing this task you will imprint something powerful in your subconscious mind, and add at the same time the sacerdotal office or quality to the item obtained. You cannot fail if these gradual processes are aligned correctly. Dealing these with entities is NO joke and is indeed dangerous--I WILL NOT bend my thinking here to please 'the masses' or ANYONE in this forum. Based on EXPERIENCE I know how these things work. In fact, I was once contacted by a man on this forum who wanted to casually work with demons in his UPPER room--he underwent massive psychological problems after my CRYSTAL CLEAR instructions to not 'do as you please.' Naturally, he had no control over the spirit and it never appeared like a real physical being to him. He 'changed' EVERYTHING around by mixing and matching Magical systems and did as he 'pleased' (he later confessed what a mistake he had made when he emailed). For all I know, he could be in a psychological ward as I write this post because I never heard from him again.

If I had to tell you anything, it would be to go to 8thmatrixpress.com and get away from this 'new age' miasma while you still can. It will merit you NOTHING and all your 'work' will be for naught.

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post Dec 22 2007, 02:02 PM
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Ah, I imagine any holy man of your chosen religious persuasion will suffice. If you are not catholic, then the blessing of a catholic priest is worthless. Also, the holy man must be genuine - plenty of priests and other holy men are not up to standard. A Rabbi or Guru or some such should suffice as well as a priest. Catholicism is no more the one true religion of G-D than any other religion.

I'd like to see Bym's suggestion on this, his is an opinion I trust. As for me, I've never cared to accomplish physical evocation just yet, waiting for the time I can build a proper room, although I have to agree that it should be done on the ground - not from experience, but rather simply from the observance than any magick of manifestation seems to work better when done with one's feet in contact with the earth.

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post Dec 22 2007, 02:59 PM
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This is once again a part of the new age miasma that is controlling the so-called 'magical world' as we know it today--and I ask you all to take this into account. No, sir, you may NOT make up your own rules in Old System Magic--I speak to you from EXPERIENCE. You would be mixing systems once again--THIS is NOT permitted in this work. If, for example, you are working from the Heptameron (a Magical ritual with CATHOLIC elements)--you obtain that blessed chalk from a CATHOLIC priest! That's it. There are no more discussions. Otherwise, you are introducing duality and DOUBT into the operation. Though there is no 'recipe' for an evocation and every magician is 'different' what has been written has been written. The laws of Magic are NOT up to your 'feelings' or 'emotions.' You are misguided here on ALL counts. In this work, certain rules are layed out, filled with traps, but all is there. OBEY THE RULES! There is absolutely no 'picking and choosing' what you desire. If you want the full-scale RESULTS that is what you do. So many have realized FROM THIS FORUM that they failed for NOT doing as the Grimoires said. If the grimoire asks for the "blood of a cock that never trod hen" and you bring in your dogs blood into the operation, you are breaking the rules, young man and will achieve a partial result AT BEST (is this what you are REALLY after--ask yourself) 'slingshot effects,' or NOTHING at all!

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norrinradd   Magikal Circle Creation On A Wooden Floor   Dec 22 2007, 01:24 AM
ComaOfLoss   What would you reccommend to draw a magical circle...   Dec 22 2007, 03:38 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   This is once again a part of the new age miasma th...   Dec 22 2007, 08:45 PM
Mr. Curi   Here is what I intended to write and indeed wrote ...   Dec 23 2007, 01:26 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Here is what I intended to write [b]and indeed wro...   Dec 23 2007, 02:48 AM
Mr. Curi   Vagrant: No, I will not indulge your 'ego...   Dec 23 2007, 11:14 AM
Acid09   I'd use salt. But if you don't feel that y...   Dec 22 2007, 10:57 PM
bym   Greetings Colleagues! I find that this discus...   Dec 23 2007, 11:24 AM
Mr. Curi   Good day to you BYM, Not a problem in the least, ...   Dec 23 2007, 11:35 AM
Imperial Arts   From the Old System Magic perspective No such thi...   Dec 23 2007, 12:24 PM
norrinradd   there was a post in this thread saying something a...   Dec 23 2007, 07:13 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I am mainly interested in evoking elements or elem...   Dec 23 2007, 08:56 PM
Mr. Curi   I'd suggest that you turn to The Prayers of th...   Dec 24 2007, 11:04 AM
gift22   yeah Transcedental Magic a good idea, but i've...   Dec 31 2007, 03:58 AM
Mr. Curi   Modern magic(k) is a contrivance of the new age. ...   Jan 1 2008, 09:27 PM
Acid09   Use salt for you circle. It cooresponds directly...   Jan 2 2008, 05:26 PM
Mr. Curi   I agree with Acid09, use salt. But in my experien...   Jan 2 2008, 09:01 PM

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