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norrinradd
post Dec 22 2007, 01:24 AM
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What would you reccommend to draw a magical circle on a wooden floor that will wash off easy?????


will chalk do the trick?? or watercolors???

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post Dec 23 2007, 12:24 PM
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From the Old System Magic perspective

No such thing exists. We refer to "old system magic" as a general term for more than a dozen different books from a period spanning more than 500 years. It is undoubtable that the authors all had different things in mind when they penned these books, and that we can but speculate on their beliefs about magic. We have only the modern perspective, and at that only our individual viewpoints, from which to understand these works by study and application.

I also agree in that we should maintain the individual traditions of magic. Realize that what one grimoire, or even several of them, say about how to do the ceremonies does not apply to the other works in the same vein.


In the matter of degree, the spirit that will appear in the smoke of the Perfume of the Art will appear so real that you will think it is another physical being you are conversing with. The reason is because the earth stabalizes the whole operation and the instability of the spirit works against them

Perhaps you are expert in the Heptameron, and the spirits thus conjured appear in the incense? This is not my experience with Goetia.

You assert some esoteric power of the earth to stabilize spirits, and you also assert that the spirits are themselves unstable. You reference Lisiewski for these ideas, but how well-grounded are these ideas? From what observations has this doctrine been derived? It is one thing to work successfully in the basement but not in the attic, but it is something further to suggest a magical power of the earth or to expand the definition of the spirits on account of it.

Is this bit about the instability of spirits and the stabilizing power of the bare earth in the Heptameron? Frakly it smacks of New Age sophistry.


I was once contacted by a man on this forum who wanted to casually work with demons in his UPPER room--he underwent massive psychological problems after my CRYSTAL CLEAR instructions to not 'do as you please.'

Now you can consider yourself contacted by someone who casually worked with demons in his upper room and had absolutely no trouble with it.

The spirit was Agares, and for the conjuration I used the large upper room in our old home. The building was formerly a mental health asylum, ironically, but the room did have carpeting. I laid down the circle on a painted cloth, and the triangle was made on the floor in tape with the names written on it with a marker. I have also used areas outdoors above and below ground, a concrete-floored garage, and my current conjuring room is a large tile-floor area. Aside from aesthetic concerns and the actual drawing of the circle, none of these flooring options made any difference in the ceremony or created any unwelcome side-effects.


If, for example, you are working from the Heptameron (a Magical ritual with CATHOLIC elements)--you obtain that blessed chalk from a CATHOLIC priest!

If you perform ceremonies of Tibetan Buddhism that require incense blessed by the Panchen Lama, then you'll need that one to do the ceremony. If there is no sort of priest specified, nor instruction to make them by hand, then you are free to use candles from Wal-Mart. The same goes for the chalk, the robe, and any other instrument where there is no specific rule about its construction and consecration.


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norrinradd   Magikal Circle Creation On A Wooden Floor   Dec 22 2007, 01:24 AM
ComaOfLoss   What would you reccommend to draw a magical circle...   Dec 22 2007, 03:38 AM
Mr. Curi   Dear 'norrinradd,' From the Old System Ma...   Dec 22 2007, 12:32 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Ah, I imagine any holy man of your chosen religiou...   Dec 22 2007, 02:02 PM
Mr. Curi   This is once again a part of the new age miasma th...   Dec 22 2007, 02:59 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   This is once again a part of the new age miasma th...   Dec 22 2007, 08:45 PM
Mr. Curi   Here is what I intended to write and indeed wrote ...   Dec 23 2007, 01:26 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Here is what I intended to write [b]and indeed wro...   Dec 23 2007, 02:48 AM
Mr. Curi   Vagrant: No, I will not indulge your 'ego...   Dec 23 2007, 11:14 AM
Acid09   I'd use salt. But if you don't feel that y...   Dec 22 2007, 10:57 PM
bym   Greetings Colleagues! I find that this discus...   Dec 23 2007, 11:24 AM
Mr. Curi   Good day to you BYM, Not a problem in the least, ...   Dec 23 2007, 11:35 AM
norrinradd   there was a post in this thread saying something a...   Dec 23 2007, 07:13 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I am mainly interested in evoking elements or elem...   Dec 23 2007, 08:56 PM
Mr. Curi   I'd suggest that you turn to The Prayers of th...   Dec 24 2007, 11:04 AM
gift22   yeah Transcedental Magic a good idea, but i've...   Dec 31 2007, 03:58 AM
Mr. Curi   Modern magic(k) is a contrivance of the new age. ...   Jan 1 2008, 09:27 PM
Acid09   Use salt for you circle. It cooresponds directly...   Jan 2 2008, 05:26 PM
Mr. Curi   I agree with Acid09, use salt. But in my experien...   Jan 2 2008, 09:01 PM

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