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norrinradd
post Dec 22 2007, 01:24 AM
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What would you reccommend to draw a magical circle on a wooden floor that will wash off easy?????


will chalk do the trick?? or watercolors???

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post Dec 23 2007, 07:13 PM
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there was a post in this thread saying something about if i am to evoke demons or angels or whatever then i was advised to do the evokation on the earth like in a cellar, garage ect.

I am mainly interested in evoking elements or elemental enerrgy. I read about someone who does this for artistic inspiration or unconvering a talent and or potentials(which is what im interested in). This person I think it was a moderator on this forum would evoke the air elemental energies to aid in his inspiration in creating an art project or writing a paper.

do i still need to be grounded on earth to have success in evoking an air elemental energy or other elemental energies???

how about evoking the earth elemental energy?? Do i have to be grounded on earth for the operation for evoking the earth element energies to be a success??


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p.s.-one more question Which grimoires do i need to purchase to learn how to evoke elements because i didnt see anything about evoking elements in my Golden Dawn book.

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post Dec 23 2007, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(norrinradd @ Dec 23 2007, 08:13 PM) *
I am mainly interested in evoking elements or elemental enerrgy. I read about someone who does this for artistic inspiration or unconvering a talent and or potentials(which is what im interested in). This person I think it was a moderator on this forum would evoke the air elemental energies to aid in his inspiration in creating an art project or writing a paper.


I find that it is easiest to evoke elemental energies and/or entities in places that are amiable to them. But that is by no means a solid rule - correspondences to attract that element on your altar is all that you need to create an amiable atmosphere for elemental energies or entities. I try to evoke elementals in environments that suit them, it simply makes it easier in my experience - gnomes on the ground somewhere; sylphs on a rooftop or at least under the sky; undines near a body of water; salamanders near a fire (a fireplace, a bonfire, etc, even just a small fire in a bowl). When it comes to working with angels of the elements, they represent the higher order of elements, and are often easier to call for aid in some regards, although they are more about teaching, where elementals are more about doing. So, an angel of air (in this instance) might be the way to go. It's up to your preference. For instance a sylph may stimulate your intellect, whereas an angel would be excellent for teaching you methods to stimulate your own intellect. Evoking the elemental air energy itself, will cause your intellect to be more active, but will require your own will to direct it properly. So, some combination may be in order, and either elementals or angels can instruct you in how to direct that airy energy.

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do i still need to be grounded on earth to have success in evoking an air elemental energy or other elemental energies???


Like imperial arts said, ultimately the location is not as important (ground or above ground) in order to evoke something, as the atmosphere and your connection to that place. In my own work, I typically work on the bare earth in some fashion (basement, outside, etc.) in order to do works of manifestation, as the binding of elements together is the purview of earth and these energies are, for me, more accessible while on the ground. But, a place off of the ground will be, I think, more amiable to air elementals specifically, whether that is an apartment, an attic, or a rooftop, etc.

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how about evoking the earth elemental energy?? Do i have to be grounded on earth for the operation for evoking the earth element energies to be a success??


Same as above, the atmosphere is more important, however in my own experience I find it easier to work with those energies when I am on the ground. However, the hermetic element of earth is not specific to the earth itself, the planet, but rather all manifested things, so the presence of the earth elemental energy is ultimately inescapable, and present wherever you are doing work within malkhuth. ON that logic, I would say, no it is not required, depending on the aim of the operation - for instance you could be doing work to learn about minerals, plants, growing things, etc. - in which case I believe that working on the ground would be advantageous. If you are seeking the aid of, or education in, the elemental properties of earth as an archetypal elemental force, then anywhere is as advantageous as anywhere else.

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p.s.-one more question Which grimoires do i need to purchase to learn how to evoke elements because i didnt see anything about evoking elements in my Golden Dawn book.


Which book? What you're going to be working with there is a basic formula for evocation. You'll do the banishing ritual first, then the invoking ritual of the appropriate element, then work an evocation ritual for an elemental entity - or, the simple invocation ritual along with a meditation or spell utilizing that elemental energy, if you choose to simply work with the energy itself. The Golden Dawn, the book by I. Regardie, is a manual of magickal practice, not a spellbook, so it gives the theory and practice of magick, but not necessarily directions for each and every thing you want to accomplish. It gives a working framework that you can then apply creatively towards a particular operation. If you're working with Regardie's book, you're looking for chapter 6, the first part (evocation). This is a particular evocation script, but if you read over it and make bullet points for yourself about each step, you'll probably grasp the pattern in the ritual, and recognize which parts are specific to that ritual, and which parts are an aspect of general evocation. I'd rather not spell it out for you - although there are plenty of books that do - because you'll have a firmer grasp of the process if you analyze the ritual yourself, and reading through it like that is really an invaluable process.

That's of course, assuming you want to follow the golden dawn formula - and there are plenty of others that work. Konstaninos' summoning spirits gives a pretty simple formula, but for some people it's not involved enough a process to 'get in the mood'. There's also Bardon's method, The Practice of Magical Evocation, which I haven't had much experience with yet, but his initiatory book is excellent, so I would trust that book as well, although it suggests mastering the first book before proceeding to that book - it is none the less an excellent resource for learning about evocation in general, as theory, before putting it into practice.

In the meantime, simply associating yourself frequently with the element in question, and identifying yourself with it, will lead your intuition towards insights regarding the workings of the elements. So, spend some time meditating on the elemental energy, coming to understand it as a literal element, an archetypal elemental force, analyze the names associated with it (especially the hebrew names, as they are themselves formulas that describe the force which they name, see chapter 7, under skrying and astral visions, etc., as that chapter individually covers a great deal of information on the hebrew alphabet, assuming you want to go that route.

The more you understand an element, the easier it is to work with, just generally speaking. Though i'm certain that some individuals will disagree with everything I have suggested here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dots.gif)

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post Dec 24 2007, 11:04 AM
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I'd suggest that you turn to The Prayers of the Elementals to do this wok from Transcedental Magic.


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norrinradd   Magikal Circle Creation On A Wooden Floor   Dec 22 2007, 01:24 AM
ComaOfLoss   What would you reccommend to draw a magical circle...   Dec 22 2007, 03:38 AM
Mr. Curi   Dear 'norrinradd,' From the Old System Ma...   Dec 22 2007, 12:32 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Ah, I imagine any holy man of your chosen religiou...   Dec 22 2007, 02:02 PM
Mr. Curi   This is once again a part of the new age miasma th...   Dec 22 2007, 02:59 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   This is once again a part of the new age miasma th...   Dec 22 2007, 08:45 PM
Mr. Curi   Here is what I intended to write and indeed wrote ...   Dec 23 2007, 01:26 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Here is what I intended to write [b]and indeed wro...   Dec 23 2007, 02:48 AM
Mr. Curi   Vagrant: No, I will not indulge your 'ego...   Dec 23 2007, 11:14 AM
Acid09   I'd use salt. But if you don't feel that y...   Dec 22 2007, 10:57 PM
bym   Greetings Colleagues! I find that this discus...   Dec 23 2007, 11:24 AM
Mr. Curi   Good day to you BYM, Not a problem in the least, ...   Dec 23 2007, 11:35 AM
Imperial Arts   From the Old System Magic perspective No such thi...   Dec 23 2007, 12:24 PM
gift22   yeah Transcedental Magic a good idea, but i've...   Dec 31 2007, 03:58 AM
Mr. Curi   Modern magic(k) is a contrivance of the new age. ...   Jan 1 2008, 09:27 PM
Acid09   Use salt for you circle. It cooresponds directly...   Jan 2 2008, 05:26 PM
Mr. Curi   I agree with Acid09, use salt. But in my experien...   Jan 2 2008, 09:01 PM

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