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Dasao
post Dec 24 2007, 09:41 PM
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This might belong in two threads, or it may have been covered. But if it's been covered I haven't found anything on it. After looking around websites and such I was just wondering about two rarely-mentioned things concerning Servitors.

One: When you use a physical base for a creation, just WHAT do you typically use as a base? A ring? A jar? A doll? A crystal?

Two: Serivtor appearances can range from huge dragons to humanlike things to blobs of gel-ish stuff from what I've heard . What do you usually use as a 'shell'? Or do you even use one in simpler cases?

There are no right or wrong answers to them, I know. But I after reading so much on how to make thoughtforms those two things have my curiosity.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hope this info ends up useful to some one other than just me.

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post Dec 25 2007, 07:56 PM
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This is off topic, but kind of what I had in mind for that was a being (in the form of a character I made up, a human or humanlike being) that would act as a sort of all-purpose guardian/assistant. This would be long-term as I would go for a simpler base for a temporary one.
I have the following charms but I might need to add/remove some it's far from perfect

A wing: Grace, speed, the ability to be right there in a flash when needed
A key: access to secrets and knowledge, discovery
A heart: loyalty and love
A ring with a (plastic) crystal hanging from it: balance, protection

bit I wouldn't be doing much until after the holidays, I'm pretty busy now....my relatives are here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uglyhammer.gif)

More on topic, does it matter so much if the base is man-made like plastic? I wouldn't think it would make a difference

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post Dec 25 2007, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(Dasao @ Dec 25 2007, 08:56 PM) *
More on topic, does it matter so much if the base is man-made like plastic? I wouldn't think it would make a difference


All matter is the expression of spirit, therefore all matter is suitable for magick.

So, with that in mind, whatever works for you, spiritually and psychologically, will anchor magickal intention.

Now, the other side of that is the saying - as above, so below. This is where correspondences come from. Material patterns are expressions of subtle or spiritual patterns. Every material object is an expression, therefore each material object is suitable for some kind of magick, manmade or not. But, what you have to think about is what spiritual ideal the physical object is an expression of (and when I say 'object' I mean all manifested things, including sounds, colors, smells, etc.)

The only way to know experientially - and therefore, for certain - what energies are expressed in various objects, is to see them from a higher sphere, particularly in scrying Samekh, the path between Tipareth and Yesod (which is a hermetic bias on my part, of course.) But, there are a lot of books and papers on correspondences.

Plastic, I have found, is resistant to natural energies - it's difficult to accumulate elemental or planetary energies in plastic for this reason. Whether or not you can anchor a servitor to is not the question, but rather, in doing so, what properties will you imbue in the servitor?

So what are the properties of plastic? It's malleable and diverse, for one thing - we make millions of things from plastic - which may be a plus. It is weak against fire, however, so that may be a minus, when it comes to protection elements. Plastic doesn't decay - at least not in the short term - so it represents a resilient energy (some servitors, like ideas, dreams, etc., will decay over time in the weather of the astral, after a fashion).

Also, another consideration is, does the plastic base inspire you at all? One of the plusses to using crystals, metals, etc., is that they have always fascinated us as humans, partially because of how they look, what they feel like, etc., they inspire the imagination and give us a sense of connection to something. It will be difficult to use something for magick that you do not perceive as magickal.

Of course plastic has other properties, it's something that, as a magickal material, hasn't been explored very much, but it's possible to speculate, and apply the hermetic axiom - as above, so below - to understand what potentials it has. Do some research on plastic, put some consideration into it, and then make your decision based on those conclusions and/or intuitions. And for that matter, come back and share them with us!

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