Demon Worship, Worship of a demon from the Goetia Options

Without following any strict code of approach like the Goetia or other grimores, I have been experiencing contact with one demon from the Goetia with a fantastic degree of success.

= Approach:
1. Treating the demon with respect and honor
2. Chanting name of demon, visual focus on sigil
3. Incensing sigil with fragrance of plant listed with demon's planet
4. Daily thanks for past favors
5. Placing sigil under pillow at night
6. Offering wine, fresh plant listed with demon's planet, and water on a plain altar
7. Lighting candles, black or of the specific color of the demon's planet
8. Offerings of personal energy
9. Drawing the sigil and using it in artwork for others to see
10. Private sigil drawing in art for devotion

= Environmental observations:
1. A sweet smell, at times overpowering, comes and goes
2. Ripples through the air, like something moving through water
3. Pockets of what appears to be heat vapor as the type you see rising from hot objects like pavement, in midair moving and fading away
4. Candles rising and crackling noises during meditation
5. Crackling noises or popping in the air without candles lit
6. Sudden cold areas in the room, usually near my arms, face

= Communication Methods From Demon:
1. All through dreams, information given to me beyond my wildest expectations, dream images range from obvious to heavy symbolism
2. Odd coincidences in real life which usually point directly to the demon to some degree

I don't believe in "dabbling" in magick, this is not idle amusement, I've done my research, which is not to suggest a convoluted ego. I note and appreciate written cautions against befriending demons and not using protective measures [meaning I use no circle, I never banish, I do not call upon any godform or higher power before, during, or after communicating with the demon]. I am not a practicing Satanist nor do I belong to any Satanic group or order, that includes the recent web-popular "demonolatry" bunch. I'm not knocking such groups but I wish to make this point clear as some may ask if I call upon Satan as some texts describe, I do not. My devotion towards this particular demon from the Goetia has been on-going for several years. During the early contacts, I inquired to another demon from the Goetia about a matter and received an instant response that night in a dream, followed by another dream which was disturbing and made it appear that I had offended the demon I so honor by contacting another for advice instead of him. Since then, I have only maintained contact with the one demon I had so devoted my attention to and the rewards in dreams have been miraculous.

I evoked the demon a couple of times but have not since and never to a degree where I could hear or see it, I blame this on spending no more than an hour on them, an error on my behalf. Honestly, I felt I was pushing it by trying evocation at this point, feeling it best to continue with light contact for several additional months. My main communication is through the Approach outlined above. I plan on evoking to visible manifestation. A recent dream was a scroll with writing on it and a line thrust before me, which leads me to believe the demon wishes to make a long term pact with me. Should anyone wish to comment on my experiences, as briefly as I have stated them thus far and perhaps share any tips on evocation before I attempt? I'm especially interested in ImperialArts' view, respecting of course his appreciation for doing things by the book in his approach.

Aside from Sacred-Magick.org, I find it very difficult to find any intelligent discussion of the Goetia or serious workings with demons. The closest I have come to witnessing calm, interesting discussions of this type was when I was skimming old posts in some alt.magick groups. The few other forums I have discovered which mention the Goetia are either short on details, discussions which quickly turn into fighting matches, or any useful content quickly vanishes through mysterious events never fully disclosed and no useful info. remaining. I'm beginning to wonder, based on my experiences, if Goetic studies lead to such a success the useful information is blacked out on purpose. Considering the relationship of many of the notable occultists of old and their interest in math, medicine, and study of the nature and workings of the world in general, some curious world events (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip) lead me to consider the possibility of goetic studies continuing at higher levels than your average armchair evoker. Back on-topic, thank you Sacred-Magick.org.

In addition to the "Environmental observations" I listed above, I do receive odd but not disturbing feelings of being lightly "touched" sometimes, sometimes like a point of a pencil but soft not hard moving across my skin. I had never felt anything like this prior to my experience with the Goetia, at first I dismissed it as nerves. To add to the "Approach" section, I have noticed very recently, as in the past few weeks, in addition to placing the demon's sigil beneath my pillow at night before sleep, I have sometimes chosen instead to place it directly against my back near the base of my neck, for some reason it begins to feel very warm, tingly, and provides an almost erotic rush. My mind often blanks as I meditate on the sigil in my mind and drift off to sleep. What is the effect, symbolic or realised, to applying the sigil to this area for large amounts of time? Perhaps a psychological effect of closeness with my mind making up these sensations? I could dismiss it as such just as with the sensations on skin and nerves mentioned above. In all previous experiences with other religions and deities or spirits, I've never received such "proof", if you will, of visualized external and bodily phenomena.

@bym:
"Greetings Leechmob!
Well....why ask for suggestions if you already know it all? No offense, please. You are in serious danger"

Hello bym! Of course, I do not know it all, no offense taken. I hope I did not come across as offensive, but I said, "I've done my research, which is not to suggest a convoluted ego" to allow the reader to clearly see I am not suggesting to be an expert. I honor your response and invite you gracefully to continue to add to this discussion with your experiences should it merit your time. If I am offending you by any attempt to draw you out of your decision to have made a final post, I apologise, but please know I am interested in further discussion with you on this matter should you wish to kindly change your mind. How would evoking the demon to physical manifestation at this point be suicidal? Let us look at this from a different perspective: the god of the Bible. No offense intended to believers of any particular faith, I'm juggling this as a comparison as it relates to spirits falling, heh, under the related religion.

The god of the Bible demanded blood sacrifices in the Old Testament, killed many humans, flooded the Earth, threw humans into chaos when they became too unified (tower of Babel), punished one human harshly for offering plants instead of animals, relied on a scapegoat (Satan) to punish humans (like Job) with terrible fury instead of doing the job himself, and so on. If one believes some or all of the demons from the Goetia are fallen angels, are they not justified in their falling away from such a creature? Read in the Old Testament how wrathful this god was, his very appearance by description could easily be said to have been demonic, creating terror. The sight of his angels instilled fear in people who saw them, leading them to say, "be not afraid" in their greetings to humans.

If the Bible tells me anything early on, it tells me that that god used his angels before they fell to punish and torture man, whether by tests of faith or mad scientist experiments, he still used them to whatever end. What evidence is there to suggest he does not use them, his "good" angels, to this end today? Are demons and Satan facing the blame for what god's angels may be doing on behalf of god only to be exorcised in the name of god? What are vaccines made from? Quite ironic if you think about that one. In the New Testament everything under the sun was blamed on Satan and demons. I did find it ironic that Jesus honored the demons request to send them into the pigs, which they then drowned and likely ate. Perhaps the others who said Jesus commanded by powers of demons were not far off after all.

But that's another story, my intent here is not to delve into the Bible as there are unlimited ways to interpret scripture from any religion. When you look at it this way, how can the fallen angels be the ones in the wrong here? How can they be the evil ones? Let us assume they are the evil ones, how does their creator measure up on the scale of morality? Should he not be the one sent to an eternal lake of fire? Why would a loving god create animals to be killed in his name which viciously hunt each other down and eat each other, and some of his creatures which parade animal skins as trophies and mindlessly devour their meat without more thought than it takes to squeeze a ketchup bottle? We could also compare the fallen angels to other gods of the past, including the ones of more primal religions whether they are similar to or in reality the gods themselves or different faces of them, or whether it's worse to approach a fallen angel with devotion rather than a primal god of old, but again I'm trying to make a comparison here within the realm of the religion(s) these spirits are claimed to originate from.

bym, if you suggest my approach is wrong, what would you suggest I do now were I to follow your advice? Thank you.

@Imperial Arts:
"Which spirit?"

It is one of the Earls. I have read your generous entries on your live journal, which I hope sees more updates as it is wonderful stuff, so know that I know you go into detail and name specific entities at the beginning, but this is all I can say, as per relationship with said entity, I mean no offense in only mentioning the title.

@Imperial Arts:
"Can you describe some of the things you have gained from the spirit, apart from communication with it?"

Deep insight into future events, often showing them exactly as they are to and eventually happen within days or weeks usually sooner than later, events appearing sooner are closer, events appearing later appear farther away (if the dreams do not appear exactly as they occur, they are shrouded in symbolism which is impressive as the ordinary joe would likely dismiss fanciful dreams for fantasy and nothing more, sometimes portions of the symbolic dreams I have to work out but it never requires too much effort as the demon is quite brilliant in the use of symbolism), warnings of events to happen in the next day or days ahead, revealing answers in dreams in response to direct questions asked when I was awake, healing any cold, fever, flu within hours without requiring medication (though playing devil's advocate I've also read about demons causing sickness in order to appear miraculous in healing it, so who knows), lessons on self-improvement. Thus far I have chosen to make only a few short requests of the demon to be revealed in dreams, not wanting to treat him as a wish-granter (have you ever seen the movie wishmaster?), but as an entity I respect. Every other detail he has revealed to me has been of his initiative, which I have always thanked him for, and thank him here now in public for.

One odd event which I'm not sure how to interpret occurred, I had a dream which involved objects which would later injure me through an accident the next day, leaving a lasting scar on me. In another dream later I was shown this wound with worm shaped bright energy shooting through it, and was told something about this being where power originated. Anyone able to shed light on this would be helpful, the only possible thing I could see this event as was forewarning or a mark of some sort being imprinted on purpose. When I think about it, in the beginning there were between three to five small accidents where I would receive a cut enough to bleed slightly, or experience random nosebleeds I had never had before. The scar and the dreams before and after stump me as to the why and what for.

I have noticed other odd events pointing to the demon in my waking life, too numerous to add here in any short amount of time. One interesting note: others can smell the same scent as I have noticed, the sweet, musky odor which comes and goes. This is funny, I always read about angels giving off a sweet scent when they are around to a certain degree, and that demons always gave off a terrible odor. Thoughts?

@Imperial Arts:
"If you were to make a "long-term" pact with this spirit, what sort of advantages and securities would you want that to include?"[i]

This is something I haven't worked through yet, as I have read time and again of the warnings of pacts with entities and loopholes they appear to exploit when entering one without proper wording. Great Faust! This is another reason I asked for advice since the presentation of the scroll in a dream led me to believe the spirit was interested in a pact, being as our courting to date has been smooth.

@Imperial Arts:
[i]"Unless I am mistaken, you are the one who decided what things to use in your approach. Has the spirit suggested anything further for you to do, or anything that you should not do? "

Correct, I decided on the approach, and the results have shown I haven't failed to receive notice, contact, and results. The spirit asked for wine, which I have given, after I had been offering water to it for months. When I initially failed to purchase wine for it, it showed me in a dream about making wine with fruit, but I went ahead and bought some wine rather than trying some ghetto approach to wine making. When I did ask him if there were an easier way to communicate with it, as in in a waking state and directly conversing with it, I had a dream that night of a pig running around before falling in mud, and I had never had a dream of a pig or pigs before. I did not wake up and throw a bunch of bacon on the altar, so I hope I did not offend it by failing to answer this request, if it did in fact want some pork. (Luke 8:33, anyone?) I can't set out anything which will attract ants or other bugs, I limit my food and drink offerings to wine, other expensive drinks containing alcohol, large glasses of water, and plants related to the spirit's planet which I grow myself. I can't remember there being anything the spirit asked me not to do, but I believe this would be something to address the spirit with in the future evocation.

@Imperial Arts:
"Do you really want to have this demon as your god, or is this activity just a way to arrange for assistance from a spirit you believe to be powerful?"

I have not ruled out the former or the latter. Thank you Imperial Arts.

@Vagrant Dreamer:
"And this didn't send up any kind of a red flag for you? Have you considered the possible consequences for the eventuality that you might want to at some point accomplish something outside the purview of this particular demon's influence?"

Excellent point and questions, thank you. Yes, but being new to the Goetia, I thought it best as I have read elsewhere, to move slowly with one demon at a time rather than bouncing around. Was I misinformed? I appreciate your kind attention and points in the remainder of your post, a very nice read, thank you.

@Vagrant Dreamer:
"Why is it that every demons who's purpose you read about is something like, "Grants treasure from far away" or "incites the love of men in women" or, "can furnish and army with weapons.""

Satan offering Jesus the world for a bended knee, Buddha and Mara, etc. Your points in your paragraph and really worth mentioning in this thread, it's true. I have always favored spiritual development vs. feeding materialistic desires, but I suppose when compared to my past experiences with spirituality, various deities, and the whole lot of it, my encounters with the Goetia have been so shockingly rewarding and interesting, I find myself wanting more. Thus, the cling to the material, the tangible. You mention, the "karmic nature of pacts". Yes, I understand this, but what if one did not mind serving the spirit in its' realm eventually should a pact be made? If you choose to believe in a heaven or hell, those who would go to heaven would spend eternity worshipping and glorifying god, singing like the angels and such, right? Lots of people see heaven as a place where they can have all they want, but scripture says otherwise, like the angels, it'll be about worship. Any rational individual will see that as clearly "serving" the creature, god, whatever you wish to call him, of that particular religion's heaven. What's the difference?

@Vagrant Dreamer:
"These aren't just empty acts" "All of this interaction is symbolic"

True, brilliant, and well said. As for "manifesting poltergeist phenomenon", I have noticed knocking noises, objects moved from places I had originally placed them, other people in the same dwelling have noticed the same sweet smells coming and going as well as objects falling more often than they should for no reason, items knocked off of shelves but not in an overtly malicious or obvious way, and crackling noises or popping sounds. "giving you sores" Strange nose bleeds, some extreme pressure in the ears which lasts for several days or weeks then mysteriously vanishes. Accidents, as I mentioned earlier, coming out of nowhere but nothing serious. I wanted to address this part as I have experienced some strange things but I do see and agree with the point you were making in that paragraph. Thank you.

Leechmob, your way of working is very similair to the LHP way of doing things. I have no problem with how you work with the spirit in question generally speaking, it really is just a matter of perspective and your beliefs/attitudes . I'd be interested to know if before working this way you attempted other ways of working, such as the traditional way the grimoires suggest, or more contempory angle. Also did you choose the spirit to contact or the spirit choose you initially. Also I'd be interested to know why you chose a spirit from the goetia, and not another spirit from another grimoire. Just curious.

Loki