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balancedmagi
post Jan 19 2008, 08:03 PM
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i um... i believe that the world is um perfect. i think that there is nothing wrong with anything because well, everything happens for a reason and well... its like a really cool way of fitting the peices together. like um have you ever seen um final destination. okay i know its stupid but like have you becuase that way they day the design and stuff is like how life works and stuff. um but um i think that this is how life works and makes our lives perfect but um i dont think we need to understand anything. i um think that we need to just live and enjoy life. i think... um never mind bye


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I think the over tone of the question touches on the greater philosophical view that all that has, is and ever will exist already has existed and that we as conscious beings are merely observing the unfolding of reality. We're just alone for the ride in other words. In a sense it means predestination. Everything is already set in motion. It doesn't matter if there is a purpose to it, nor rhyme or reason, it just is. In that sense individual perfection is pointless and immaterial, because it not the single sub-atomic particals that make up a molecule, rather the culmination of all particles, weather infanitely small or vast that create perfection. Under this model, pain and pleasure do not matter. They are merely our interpretation of stimuli as the universe unravels itself, with no function greater than that. In short, we and everything are all perfect, not because we individually are just mgaickally so, but because we are a part of the greater universal structure that is perfection in all its glory.

The flaw in the philosophy is free will. If we truely have free will and we already know that we are as perfect as we're going to be, then why continue? Yet even this very conflict undermines the fact that everything that has happened, is happening and will happen, already has we're just observing it from a single point in time/space. Thus is you say 'hey I'm as a perfect as I'm going to get I'll just lay down and die", then it was already meant to happen. Under this paradigm there is no mundane escape from predistination, at least not one I can think of. "Escape" requires one to totally trancend reality entirely; to become seperate, and yet just as eternal as the universe itself. In that sense one would have achieved individual perfection as they themselves would become essentially as Gods, infanitly small and equally vast. Sadly, even this is still a part of predestination. If you were meant to trancend reality, then you already have and if you haven't yet, then you are just not on the correct point in time/space. Essentially, under this model, there is no free will, everything a person is, was or will be, every thought, every atom they contacted, created or destroyed, has on some level, already occured and hence the universe as a whole is perfect.


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balancedmagi   Ummm... Hi, These Are Um My Ideas Dont Laugh Please.   Jan 19 2008, 08:03 PM
jlx   i um... i believe that the world is um perfect. i ...   Jan 20 2008, 10:24 AM
al_zaine   Not one being made life and has no right to change...   Jan 21 2008, 10:23 AM
balancedmagi   okay but let me um put in this... it is our percep...   Jan 21 2008, 11:52 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I think this is perhaps one of the most misconstru...   Jan 22 2008, 01:19 AM
Uni_Verse   At this moment, everything looks perfect. I have ...   Jan 22 2008, 11:10 AM
balancedmagi   um vagrant you have points but the thing i mostly ...   Jan 22 2008, 06:32 PM
valkyrie   hey! the word "perfect" can imply a ...   Jan 23 2008, 10:02 PM
al_zaine   I think the over tone of the question touches on t...   Jan 24 2008, 06:48 PM
balancedmagi   wow... i must say... al_zaine you are really cool....   Jan 30 2008, 11:36 PM
plainsight   Everything that is, is as it should be.   Feb 14 2008, 06:50 PM
Goibniu   I had a satori experience a few years ago. In oth...   Feb 14 2008, 11:26 PM
al_zaine   A baby is born blind, some will see it as a hindra...   Feb 5 2009, 06:38 PM
Acid09   I think it comes down to what does it mean to be p...   Feb 5 2009, 08:10 PM
al_zaine   Theres a few thing toiling away in my mind about t...   Feb 5 2009, 10:24 PM
locust   Wat is perfection anyway? I think its a feeling, i...   Jul 25 2009, 08:04 PM

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