Ummm... Hi, These Are Um My Ideas Dont Laugh Please. Options

i um... i believe that the world is um perfect. i think that there is nothing wrong with anything because well, everything happens for a reason and well... its like a really cool way of fitting the peices together. like um have you ever seen um final destination. okay i know its stupid but like have you becuase that way they day the design and stuff is like how life works and stuff. um but um i think that this is how life works and makes our lives perfect but um i dont think we need to understand anything. i um think that we need to just live and enjoy life. i think... um never mind bye

I think the over tone of the question touches on the greater philosophical view that all that has, is and ever will exist already has existed.......... Everything is already set in motion. It doesn't matter if there is a purpose to it, nor rhyme or reason, it just is......... its not the single sub-atomic particals that make up a molecule, rather the culmination of all particles, weather infanitely small or vast that create perfection.......... pain and pleasure do not matter. They are merely our interpretation of stimuli as the universe unravels itself, with no function greater than that. In short, we and everything are all perfect, not because we individually are just mgaickally so, but because we are a part of the greater universal structure that is perfection in all its glory.

You never seize to amaze me Acid. In my eyes you carry great understanding of Life.

The flaw in the philosophy is free will. If we truely have free will and we already know that we are as perfect as we're going to be, then why continue?........

Vey interesting query. I have one view which is that the life you are living now might not be the same just 2 years down the line, the 'cards dealt' might be "better"(in your own perception) and you may learn 'new' things. I have always believed that all knowledge that was and all knowledge that will be is surrounding us right now, maybe we carry it within, same thing really. Macro/Microcosm. The point is is that nothing is new, All is and and was and All will always be. That is the perfection, the All. And we are of the All.
From our personal perception of things, life may not have been perfect when dealt 'crap cards' but looking at the big picture, All is perfect.......in maintaining imperfection!
A baby is born blind, some will see it as a hindrance and imperfection which is understandable yet what is is and that baby was meant to be born blind, eventually acquiring great hearing and a sense of touch.

Thus if you say 'hey I'm as a perfect as I'm going to get I'll just lay down and die", then it was already meant to happen. Under this paradigm there is no mundane escape from predistination, at least not one I can think of. "Escape" requires one to totally trancend reality entirely; to become seperate.........

In truth, such a thing is impossible, transcending all of reality, as the essence of reality is Space/Nothingness which has no above or below, no left or right. Existence is eternal, the is nowhere you can go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/insane.gif) ....we are the slaves of existence and I would have it no other way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lock.gif)

If you were meant to trancend reality, then you already have and if you haven't yet, then you are just not on the correct point in time/space.

As you say it yourself, existence is in control of everything.

Essentially, under this model, there is no free will, everything a person is, was or will be, every thought, every atom they contacted, created or destroyed, has on some level, already occured and hence the universe as a whole is perfect.

Perfect!
Peace
Al.
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This post has been edited by al_zaine: Jan 24 2008, 06:52 PM